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Old 11-19-2005, 10:18 AM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

CO (t80)
Button (t3760)
Brother (t5135)
BB (t16110)
UTG (t8840)
MP (t6575)

Preflop: Brother is SB with , .
1 fold, MP calls t200, CO calls t80 (All-In), 1 fold, Brother completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t680) , , (4 players, 1 all-in)
Brother bets t200, BB folds, MP calls t200.

Turn: (t1080) (3 players, 1 all-in)
Brother bets t200, MP calls t200.

River: (t1480) (3 players, 1 all-in)
Brother checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: t1480

Results in white below:
MP has 6c 4c (two pair, sevens and fives).
CO has Js 8s (two pair, sevens and fives).
Brother has Ah Jc (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Brother wins t1480.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:43 PM
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Pre-flop - this being a NL tourney, I think I would have raised to 600 with the A-Jo even from the SB

Flop - here I would go for a check-raise - 3x any bet received

Turn - 2/3 pot size raise - 7 looks like a blank, Aces up still looks boss. If MP has a 5, he'll re-raise or go all-in here.

River - not sure - depends on my read on MP and what I figure he's calling along with. If he was still in the pot by the river and with the 2nd 7 I have to think he missed his draw or he was coming along with another ace with a weaker kicker. Maybe lead out but here is an oportunity to induce a bluff and maybe get extra money into the pot - go for a check-call.


Why isn't your brother posting his own hands - can't afford the forum membership fees?
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My brother dosn't know these places exist. He dosn't take poker nearly as seriously as I do. I consider myself a better player, but he isnt that bad. I just played a STT with him and I placed 4th missing the money. He came in 2nd, after playing what seemed like a perfect game. Only big mistake he made, was heads up. Reraising with A6s and calling an allin re-reraise, it crippled him and cost him 1st place. I busted out 4th after pushing a shortstack in with AQo in LP and being called off by the BB with AK.
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So far you've posted about "nephews" and "brothers".

If you want to improve, post about yourself whether or not you really have a brother and a nephew. Though presumably the nephew is your brother's son?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:24 AM
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First, is this a 6 table max tourney, or are there only six players left? I'm going to assume it's a 6 player per table tourney.

This is a typical loose passive play. I think you need to learn much more about position, pot odds, and the value of selective aggression.

1. PF: Playing AJ out of position against 2 limpers who could both bust you is a recipe for disaster. Normally I'd say do X a certain % of the time and do Y a certain % of the time. But given the situation, I either fold the AJ preflop (not very likely, but I will if my opponents play very well post flop. I'm getting short, and if I'm out of position against good post flop players, what's my edge?) or make a good sized raise (4-5x bb) to either end the hand now (except for the CO all in for a lousy $80) or at least get my opponents to define their hands.

2. Flop: Ok, we've just called, and hit our ace. Unfortunately, if someone was playing a 5 against us, we're just about drawing dead (10% to win). There's no draws on the board, so I think we bet strongly (3/4 pot or more), and if we're called, I'm almost certainly done with this hand. Besides, we just called from the SB, so those 2 5's on the board could be scare cards for our opponents as well.

3. Turn: Ok, we made a min bet and got a call. What does this mean? Who the hell knows. Knowing nothing about the other player, I'd have to put them on a weak ace, trip 5's, or a full house or better. Either check and call a reasonable sized bet, or bet out strong and see if we can shake a weak ace.

4. River: Ok, we again min bet, and now he could literally be calling with anything. Our hand is medium to (very) weak here, and as such I would not bet here. We're only going to get a call if we're beat.

And you correctly check this hand down on the river.

Here's what I want you (or your alter ego your "brother") to do next time:
1. PF, Ask yourself "why am I playing this hand? what's my edge?"
2. When it goes to the flop, ask yourself what type of opponents are you up against (loose aggressive, loose passive, tight passive, tight aggressive, etc.)
2. On the Flop, quickly identify the best possible two card hands right then. For this flop, it is (in order) 55, AA, A5, 5x, AK, AQ, AJ (that's us!), AT-smaller.
3. Now ask yourself what hands our opponents may have called in with (based on what kind of players they are), and start to eliminate possibilities. Do this verbally if online, or think the words in your head (don't go off impulse).
4. Now ask yourself if there are any draws out there. There are zero draws here (other than an inside straight or runner runner).
5. Now ask yourself, "should I bet, or should I check". If you think the answer is check, then why did you play the hand in the first place? Here, the answer is to bet out to find out where we're at. Normally I'd want to make a bet to induce a mistake by our opponent, but given the 2 5's on the board, and the fact I have no idea what my opponents have, I'm happy just to take this pot down. We need to make it a sizeable bet that only a better ace or a hand with a five in it could call. I'd recommend 3/4 pot up to the pot.
6. If you get called (but not raised), proceed with extreme caution for the rest of the hand.
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