I had just doubled up of karphammar after hitting trip queens with my AQ to beat his kings (All in was after I hit 3rd queen) and so felt there was a possibility he was on tilt or desperate to beat me, especially as the $10 bet seemed over strong. He seemed quite an aggresive player anyway.

I tehn had this hand:
I felt that I was winning on the turn, but once he called my raise I felt he could clearly have been beating me. When he checked the river, should I have made a bet? I felt there was too many hands he could have had which were beating me, however if he had a bigger hand maybe he would have reraised me on turn or bet out on the river as it seemed I would call?

Would anybody have done anything differently?



***** Hand History for Game 2876113294 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 11, 20:50:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 36597 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: karphammar ( $59.50 )
Seat 2: jalex42 ( $45.94 )
Seat 3: blaidan7 ( $23.79 )
Seat 4: VampireFox ( $4.65 )
Seat 5: atticus001 ( $34.55 )
Seat 6: WotaWaster1 ( $50.52 )
Seat 7: JJRigby ( $96.50 )
Seat 9: patrlot ( $56.25 )
Seat 10: scrmlovr2 ( $47.15 )
scrmlovr2 posts small blind [$0.25].
karphammar posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to WotaWaster1 [ As Qh ]
jalex42 folds.
blaidan7 folds.
VampireFox folds.
atticus001 folds.
WotaWaster1 raises [$2].
JJRigby folds.
scrmlovr2 folds.
karphammar calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 8c, Ac ]
karphammar checks.
WotaWaster1 bets [$3].
karphammar calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
karphammar bets [$10].
>You have options at Table 36628 Table!.
WotaWaster1 raises [$20].
karphammar calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
karphammar checks.
WotaWaster1 checks.
karphammar shows [ Ah, Js ] a pair of aces.
WotaWaster1 shows [ As, Qh ] a pair of aces.
WotaWaster1 wins $47.75 from the main pot with a pair of aces with queen kicker.

hmm.. i think u played this fine.. maybe bet a bit more on the flop.. like 4 dollars?
ur check on the river was good too.. u dont want to risk losing anymore money just incase he had AK, which is a strong possibility.. so i'd rather check and take down the pot as is if he had the AJ, rather then put in another river bet and lose even more money to him if he actually had the AK

doesnt seem like he would have a set in this hand.. because he didnt raise u on the flop, or reraise u on the turn, plus he didnt bet on the river.., especially when the board is draw heavy.. so the only two hands i could put him on is AJ and AK.. so ur river check was a good play..

He could have had TJ, KQc, middle pair (unlikely though).

I like the check behind... in this case he's either drawing, or he's got an Ace. If he's drawing, betting is pointless (but not wrong... a 3 doesn't complete anything). So you should be if you think he would play many Aces here (like A7) and is a weak player, and check behind if he's strong and tight. Of course, if he's good and you're not a maniac, he should have played back with AK.

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Don't bet medium strength hands at the river if given the opportunity to showdown for nothing. You'll only usually get a call if you're beat, so it's a net $ loser.

Your raise on the turn is far too small to give you any real info. Make a significant raise that at least gives him 3:1 or worse odds. This raise screams "I've got a good kicker but not a great one and I'm really worried about it". If I saw such a weak raise, I might make a big reraise here.

In the end, your opponent gets punished for making a loose call PF out of position.

This is only true if you're playing against strong, reasonable opponents. If your opponents typically call down with hands like A7 or an unimproved middle pair in these kind of situations, then value betting against them is obviously profitable.

Generalizations are ALWAYS wrong ( )

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Jason,

Given that there was about $20 in the pot and I had to put in $10 to call. I would then of had to go all in to give him pot odds like 3-1, by which point if he calls and I am losing it is too late to change anything.

Maybe reraise to $30 instead of $20?