This is why it is critical to be disciplined in how long you take for your actions. I am no good at this because I am a basket case who has to do everything at 100 MPH.......
With that said, you should try to always take the same amount of time when acting on line to prevent reads and keep people guessing. It pisses people off, but somewhere areound 10 seconds is good. Even if you know what you are doing before it gets to you give yourself a 10 count before proceeding.
I need to improve this. I am certain that there are many times where I would have re-evaluated a situation if I had forced myself to wait a pre-determined amount of time before acting. So besides not giving off tells, you get the added benefit of forcing yourself to think more.
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Thread: Online Tells vs crappy players
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11-11-2005 #11
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11-11-2005 #12
What the fuck is this all about? No one in their right mind notices a difference between .5 and 1.5 seconds. I doubt I'm very consistant while playing 8 tables at once..
“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann
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11-11-2005 #13PokerForums God
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yep, and server glitch.
Originally Posted by Jason75
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11-11-2005 #14Poker Hustler
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I used to rely on "online tells" before aswell, now I usually don't give them much creed. Delays can be caused by alot of reasons; internet problems, server glitches, multi-tabling etc...
Obviously if people are using advanced option's then you can usually pick up on it.
I try to be consitant on the amount of time I take but when playing 3+ tables its hard enough for me to keep up.
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11-11-2005 #15
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The only time I really think this works is when you have been raised into hard on the river and you hold the nuts. I know Im gonna raise, but I dont like raising so quickly. I let a few seconds of my timebank go bye and then raise about 120-80% of the pot size. Get called usally 8/10 times.
Originally Posted by Keefter
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11-11-2005 #16
waiting a set amount of time before any action can be quite useful, as it makes all your bets consistant...William Hill has a voice which sounds 'Its your turn' 10 secs into your turn, and thats when i bet...but i only do it when i think ppl are paying attention, alot ppl don't even seem to notice what cards are on the table much less how many seconds you take to bet when strong compared to weak...
a long pause before checking i usually take as a sign that the player thinking about bluffing, or indecisive about slow playing his hand...and an excessively/uncharacteristicly long pause before calling often means someones faking a hard decission, and probably has a strong hand and wants you to bet into him again
a very quick all-in, esp. if player is first to act after to flop is often a sign that the player decided to go all-in before he had seen the next card, and could be on a bluff
but like alot of ppl said above, its hard to read too much into betting times, as so many other factors affect itI love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.
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11-11-2005 #17
I agree that a lot of this is nonsense since half of the people are looking at porn, watching tv, and playing 3 tables at same time. Regardless, you should try to take same amount of time on your own actions just to play it safe and not give away any info.
I try not to bother changing my patterns in order to send a desired message because you typically end up falling into cliches like waiting to look weak or acting fast to look strong. The best way is too keep em guessing by sending no info.
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11-11-2005 #18
The most important reason for taking a set amount of time is to guarantee that you think, not just react. It is not to avoid giving off "online tells" which may not even exist.
“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann
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