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    I wouldn't go all in there because I would WANT the flush draw to call there. I'm still a favorite in the hand... and I can get away from it if the heart comes on the turn. Or overcards lol... even better.

    Bet the pot... or 1.5X the pot if it's very small (sounds like it was, 10/20 blinds and all limpers). He calls... Repeat on the turn and river if the cards don't obviously help him.
    -You may not know this, but poker is a game of incomplete information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ of TheGame
    I'm still a favorite in the hand
    I'm drunk and I still owned you.
    "Last night I stayed up late playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died."
    -Stephen Wright

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    By the way, it's stupid to keep betting the pot if the cards "obviously don't help him." Either you're right and he folds, winning you no money, or you're wrong and he calls you, winning you no money. It's a lose-lose situation.

    i need to sober up now. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxp2004
    The call here by your opponent appears justified by the pot odds. After the flop, he has top pair plus a flush draw. Thus, he has 13 outs (9 hearts, 2 remaining 8s, and 2 other JavaScript).

    With two cards to come, he'll make his hand about 48% of the time, and so the pot needs to lay him only a little better than even money to make this call. Since you stated that there were several limpers in this pot already after the flop, it's likely that he had the required odds.

    You might have considered a pot-sized raise on the flop, and then pushed on the turn. A lot of players will call an all-in on the flop with a good draw, but will fold to a big bet on the turn when they have only one more card to make their hand. Note also that the pot odds needed for a player to continue to chase a draw on the turn are doubled, again because the player can expect only 1 more card instead of two. Thus, chances are that a call which is correct on the flop is a huge mistake on the turn.
    15 outs, there are 3 jacks left.

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