Can't get Hand converter to work. I know raising on K9s is not a good play, but it was a blind steal and then the reraise by just $1 seemed worth calling since he must have a decent hand and hitting something could get paid (as I did).

I am not sure if I maximised my profit but I was thinking given that he was still playing with 3 hearts, Ak of hearts seemed a reasonable holding and I certainly couldn't see him calling an all in without a hand beating me. I didn't have a massive read on him but if I did it was a fairly steady player, not overly involved and only showing down decent starting hands.

I am sure someone like Jason75 would give a calculation saying he could have had AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs and therefore the odds of him having particularly AK of hearts was very slim.

There are:
6 x AA
3 x KK (given I have 1 K)
6 x QQ
6 x JJ
3 x Aks ( I had the diamond).

So maybe 1 in 30 chance he had Ak of hearts however I am always cautious!

Would anybody have played any differently POST flop?

Thanks
David

***** Hand History for Game 2874925094 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 10, 13:12:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 36597 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: pagge1 ( $64.48 )
Seat 5: REDDRAGGON1 ( $47.95 )
Seat 6: Truck9258 ( $24.05 )
Seat 7: drewslagle ( $65.65 )
Seat 8: fish_kid ( $48.60 )
Seat 9: WotaWaster1 ( $39.98 )
Seat 10: whodat888 ( $55.69 )
Seat 4: hexecutoremp ( $48.75 )
Seat 3: finman90 ( $31.30 )
Seat 1: A_Rath_A ( $49 )
A_Rath_A posts small blind [$0.25].
pagge1 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to WotaWaster1 [ 9d Kd ]
finman90 folds.
hexecutoremp folds.
REDDRAGGON1 folds.
Truck9258 calls [$0.50].
drewslagle folds.
fish_kid folds.
WotaWaster1 raises [$1.50].
whodat888 raises [$2.50].
A_Rath_A folds.
pagge1 folds.
Truck9258 calls [$2].
WotaWaster1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 7h, 4h ]
Truck9258 checks.
WotaWaster1 bets [$4].
whodat888 calls [$4].
Truck9258 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
WotaWaster1 checks.
whodat888 bets [$5].
WotaWaster1 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
WotaWaster1 bets [$10].
whodat888 calls [$10].
WotaWaster1 shows [ 9d, Kd ] three of a kind, nines.
whodat888 doesn't show [ Kc, Ks ] two pairs, kings and nines.
WotaWaster1 wins $43.95 from the main pot with three of a kind, nines.

first of all fold preflop. its ring theres no need. its a bad play/raise because the limper cold called 2 raises. so he wasnt folding for your initial raise of $1. if youre going to make this play, you should raise it to like $3 pf so you can at least put pressure to make him fold. raising to $1 doesnt make too much sense.

his pf min raise means AA/KK most of the time. you called on the flop to see if it was AA or AK and try and get lucky thats ok i guess. on the turn you got very lucky and since he bet again im pretty sure hes AA/KK. on the river you need to bet a lot for more a couple of reasons. he is certainly not folding AA/KK to a $20 river bet. like you said you called for implied odds, but you hit and barely got paid because you didnt bet enough on the river. also $10 was a pretty small bet he could easily raise it and it might make you fold because you were afraid of the AKh. so a bigger river bet can also act as a blocking bet/value bet. if you go 15-20 on the river and he raises then its obviously a flush and you can make a very easy fold.

just fold k9s pf and you will never be against KK OOP. it just snow balls after you play shit like that in a full ring table.

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Actually I got confused between hands. Truck was an awful player who limped on over 50% of hands and if he put 50c in would have called any raise up to $2-3 so I made a raise to try and isolate him knowing he would call down with a poor hand. I even saw him playing 46 offsuit from early position.

I know I got lucky on the turn, but he also played very poorly by not raising at that point, when I would obviously have folded. I should have put him all in at the end as I obviously thought he had a high pocket pair but I do get scared. I even thought he may have hit trips when the jack fell on the river. Is this common in new players?

Asking for advice about your post flop play here and ignoring the preflop is missing a better opportunity to improve your play.

The preflop raise is nasty.

In your first post you said you were raising to steal the blinds. Here you're saying you raised to isolate Truck (EP limper). I'm confused.

I don't mind you raising to isolate Truck if you really have that kind of read on him (that he always limps with crap). Your K9 is probably a favorite in position against one opponent who has shown no strength. Personally, I'd raise a little more to ensure the button and blinds pass with just medium hands.

But here's where I think you get off track. The button sees you raise an EP caller, and reraises the min amount. In my head, I'd be thinking "WOOP! WOOP! RED ALERT CAPTAIN! BIG HAND AHEAD!". Now if I had raised with a strong hand like AK, QQ, JJ, TT, then I could justify the call out of position based solely on my hand strength (though I would likely put in one more big reraise to get a real read on the button and try and win the hand now). But you call the raise out of position now against 2 opponents - one who has shown some real strength.

Now after the flop, your opponent basically hands you free card after free card (I mean, you bet less than 1/2 the pot on the flop and he just calls with that board?), and learns the pitfalls of doing so. Consider yourself lucky, and try and find these opponents in the future (walking ATMs, they are).

Trons, I was trying to isolate against Truck. I had already done this once when holding AK and he called me down with second pair. I also saw him betting big on a pair of A's with a 2 kicker (funnily enough getting called by another idiot with A's and 2 kicker and splitting the pot). I had also seen him lose calling a big bet on a 3 suited board holding top pair.

I'm not trying to ignore the comments on my pre flop play Irexes, but I still think the initial raise was justified. Would you never try to steal the blinds or isolate a pot against weaker players? Once the reraise from another player came in and I was required to play my hand on it's strength alone I accept I then should have thrown it away, or at least not bet out on top pair on the flop.

Sorry I meant Jason 75, can't even get people's names right!

Like I said, I don't have any problem with your isolation raise - just make it a little more next time so we get a better read if someone else jumps in.

On the flop, I think you HAVE to bet your top pair (otherwise, why did you call?). This is a great flop for our marginal hand. The button's reraise could indicate AK, which we now have dominated (a K gives us 2 pair) and I don't want to give him a free card to hit an ace (look what happened to him here). We also want to know where we're at in the hand, so we have to buy some information (it ain't free).

Raising to isolate against a single weak limper is fine... but you only really have an advantage if you have at least average+ cards!. Playing crap against someone else who is also playing crap doesn't give you an advantage. Even worse, most weak players will call down with weak pairs or even A high on a particularly raggedy board... so you'll have to connect with the flop to win most likely.

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if you got the skill to raise flops with K9s, then go for it. i really dont see the problem. however when ppl behind you show even more strength you must play cautiosly.

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