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  1. #1
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    Default 78 favored over AA preflop

    AcAs 24.43
    Kc2c
    Qc3c
    Jc4c
    8h7h 25.67
    Ks2s
    Kd2d
    Kh2h
    AhQs
    AdQd

    (those are in win percentage - 8h7h has better equity as well)
    Last edited by surftheiop; 11-09-2005 at 02:44 PM.

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    pokerstove ....... the 78 is favored to win

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    How long did it take you to do THAT lol
    -You may not know this, but poker is a game of incomplete information.

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    ok, I thought I was a deranged PokerStove nut.... but this takes the cake....
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    I Improved its chances a littel with this....

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    201,376 games 0.010 secs 20,137,600 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 24.4799 % 24.43% 00.05% { AcAs }
    Hand 2: 02.9860 % 02.87% 00.11% { Kc2c }
    Hand 3: 05.7097 % 05.36% 00.35% { Qc3c }
    Hand 4: 25.6949 % 25.67% 00.03% { 8h7h }
    Hand 5: 09.1928 % 09.08% 00.11% { Ks2s }
    Hand 6: 09.1928 % 09.08% 00.11% { Kd2d }
    Hand 7: 06.4710 % 06.36% 00.11% { Kh2h }
    Hand 8: 00.9834 % 00.62% 00.36% { AhQd }
    Hand 9: 01.7675 % 01.40% 00.36% { AdQs }
    Hand 10: 13.5221 % 13.49% 00.03% { Jc4c }


    Probably make it even higher if you scrambled all the K2s hands.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

    Luck is a Residue of Design.

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    yeah i probaly could i mainly just wanted it to get higher than AA tho hehe : )

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    Isnt 78 the favorite to win vs. AA preflop because of the straight possibility? AA has it dominated preflop but the only way it can really improve is if it catches one of the other Aces or 4 cards to a straight. where as 78 can make a low straight to 8, a high straight to J, or any middle straight w/ 78...giving it quite a number of cards to catch to improve its chances of winning...::shrug::

    IIRC and i cant remember where i heard or read this, but vs. AA preflop any middle connecting cards (suited = slightly better) is usually the favorite to win...

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    not in normal conditions...

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