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Old 11-09-2005, 08:21 AM
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Hi there - long time lurker, first time poster

So I'm three or four months into poker and breaking even on $5 SNGs. Seem to win one then go out on the bubble for the next two

I keep on finding myself in the following situations and would appreciate hearing what you guys might do. Note - these are both from late position.

Situation 1: I get some combination of A, K, Q which aren't paired. Preflop I raise from late position 3 x BB and a few of the callers fold and one or two stay in. Flop comes. No face cards and no straight or flush draws. I then get a big bet of around pot size and need to decide what to do. More often than not I will lay this hand down but it's tough - the flop is bad and if someone else is up there with two high unpaired cards, it could also help me out if they make their pair + their pre-flop betting doesn't indicate that they are sitting on a monster.

Situation 2: Late position and I get a medium pocket pair like 8, 9, 10. It's called round to me in late position. Do I put in a huge raise to try to take down the pot then, or try to flop the set cheaply? If a single overcard comes to my pair then I have to fold at pretty much any big bet - leading me towards the big raise. However, I don't want to bet too big as if I have single caller then the chances are that I'm dea and I've just thrown away my chips.

Situation 3: Not a lot of information on this one, but pretty much every hand I lose is where I'm on 2 pair and lose to trips or a higher two pair (with no pair on the board.) I think I am over-valuing 2 pair massively and wonder what your thoughts are on this. I guess you will need more info on this. I will post some hand histories.

Some of these decisions are probably 'just poker' and depend on a lot of other factors - but if anyone has any ideas on what factors I should be taking into account then please do share!
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:50 AM
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These "situations" are all so generalized, I can't really give any substantive response to how to play them. What are your opponents like? What are the stack sizes? Is this a tourney or a ring game? What are the blinds? What is your table image? How is the table playing?

Why don't you post some hand histories and we'll start there.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:13 AM
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Hi there - long time lurker, first time poster
Situation 1: I get some combination of A, K, Q which aren't paired. Preflop I raise from late position 3 x BB and a few of the callers fold and one or two stay in. Flop comes. No face cards and no straight or flush draws. I then get a big bet of around pot size and need to decide what to do.
Fold to a pot-sized bet in this situation. You have two overcards but cannot even guarentee that if you hit one them you will be ahead. You are getting 2 to 1 on the pot, but the odds of you winning the are worse than that. There are always exceptions but the usual play here is to fold.


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Situation 2: Late position and I get a medium pocket pair like 8, 9, 10. It's called round to me in late position. Do I put in a huge raise to try to take down the pot then, or try to flop the set cheaply? If a single overcard comes to my pair then I have to fold at pretty much any big bet - leading me towards the big raise. However, I don't want to bet too big as if I have single caller then the chances are that I'm dea and I've just thrown away my chips.
Either is correct depending on the context though I tend towards a limp with mid-pairs in this situation as their value is often in sets. The other option is to push allin as you probably have the limpers beaten and at worse will be a coinflip v a caller with the equity of the folded limps (pick your spot for this though).

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Situation 3: Not a lot of information on this one, but pretty much every hand I lose is where I'm on 2 pair and lose to trips or a higher two pair (with no pair on the board.) I think I am over-valuing 2 pair massively and wonder what your thoughts are on this. I guess you will need more info on this. I will post some hand histories.
This could be a result of your starting hand selection criteria. If you play J8 and hit two pair on a flop of AJ8 you can expect to be filleted fairly regularly. It could be a bunch of other reasons as well though.
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Situation 1: Fold sounds good - at $5, anything is possible. I'm not a fan of 3x raises at this level though. No need to mix up your play or try to pull in a caller.

Situation 2: I like to play hit-or-miss with pocket 10s and lower at such a low level. With so many opponents on the flop, bet 'em if you got 'em, fold 'em if you don't.

Situation 3: Too general for me to even think about.
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Things to put into your post in the future:

1) Your stack size.
2) The pot size.
3) The type of game you are playing.

I think Irexes is assuming you are playing NLH...

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