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Thread: AX vs KQ suited

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    The reason Ax isn't a playable hand is because you're not playing against RANDOM HANDS.

    People seem to think they are...you're not. The fact that someone has paid to play their hand indicates that it is no longer random, it now has some worth.

    Unfortunately, if you're playing A3, and there are other ppl in the pot, there's a good chance someone has you outkicked.

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    bonch i love the post about the AA being best hand but not being the favorite - fun to play around with pokerstove

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonchkid
    Careful.

    JTs vs 44 preflop

    6s7s vs AhAd
    Flop 4s5s6h

    AA is "ahead" but not a favorite.

    Generalizations in poker are almost never good :O
    Dude, generalizations are always good - except when they're not.

    Seriously though, all I'm saying is that the statistical advantage A3 has over KQ comes from that A3 wins when neither makes a pair or each makes a pair but the A pair wins out. This is always the case in the battle of 2 unpaired hands.

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    Heres my calculator:

    My hand is ahead when chips go in middle
    Whatever opponent holds will suck out on river

    So thinking about it doesn't matter.

    Can you tell that I am on a whale of a losing streak and getting more bitter by the minute?

    Agghhhhhh..........at least my PFO fantasy hockey team is good...no wait. They suck too.

    i promise no more posts today...I am way to negative for public discourse right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O
    Bonch don't take a good point and HAVE to argue the exceptions to the rule. Jason makes a good point and you basically make a useless antagonistic post.
    But I'm right...
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

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    If we look at the thread topic, the presuppositions are 1. preflop, and 2. two hands.

    Under these presuppositions, Jason's generalization holds in all possible cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonchkid
    But I'm right...
    {Jason hands Bonch a cookie] "That's nice, dear."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Method
    If we look at the thread topic, the presuppositions are 1. preflop, and 2. two hands.

    Under these presuppositions, Jason's generalization holds in all possible cases.
    Just to further constrain this, assumption #2 is KQ vs. Ax - 2 hands.

    Side Note: JTs is statistically a slight favorite against any low pair 22-66. (54/46).

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    jason has a very good point - i have a post showing that 78 CAN be a favotire over AA preflop ( if all 10 peope at table go all in with the proper cards) but im definately not using that fact to say 78 is better than AA

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