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Old 11-07-2005, 01:19 PM
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PokerStars Game #2997719859: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/11/07 - 16:08:04 (ET)
Table 'Scylla II' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: agor ($100 in chips)
Seat 2: john827 ($55 in chips)
Seat 3: HassanEl ($70.25 in chips)
Seat 4: sealclubber4 ($90 in chips)
Seat 5: ThadRL ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: Dralinge ($56.50 in chips)
Seat 8: dre156 ($19.75 in chips)
Seat 9: tilttaker101 ($17.75 in chips)
Seat 10: hocke101 ($43.75 in chips)
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dre156: posts small blind $0.50
tilttaker101: posts big blind $1
ThadRL : posts big blind $1

Holecards:
Dealt to ThadRL [ ]
FOLD hocke101
FOLD agor
FOLD john827
CALL HassanEl, $1
CALL sealclubber4, $1
CHECK ThadRL :
RAISE Dralinge, $1 to $2
CALL dre156, $1.50
CALL tilttaker101, $1
CALL HassanEl, $1
CALL sealclubber4, $1
CALL ThadRL , $1

Flop:
[ ]
CHECK dre156:
CHECK tilttaker101:
CHECK HassanEl:
CHECK sealclubber4:
CHECK ThadRL :
BET Dralinge, $1
CALL dre156, $1
FOLD tilttaker101
CALL HassanEl, $1
FOLD sealclubber4
CALL ThadRL , $1

Turn:
[ ] [ ]
CHECK dre156:
CHECK HassanEl:
CHECK ThadRL :
BET Dralinge, $2
CALL dre156, $2
CALL HassanEl, $2
CALL ThadRL , $2

River:
[ ] [ ]
CHECK dre156:
BET HassanEl, $2
RAISE ThadRL , $2 to $4
FOLD Dralinge
RAISE dre156, $2 to $6
FOLD HassanEl
CALL ThadRL , $2

Showdown:
dre156: shows [ ] (a flush Ace high)
ThadRL : mucks hand
dre156 collected $37 from pot
>>>ThadRL said, "nh nemo"

SUMMARY:
Total pot $38 | Rake $1

Board:
[ ]
Seat 1: agor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: john827 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HassanEl folded on the River
Seat 4: sealclubber4 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: ThadRL mucked [ ]
Seat 6: Dralinge (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: dre156 (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($37) with a flush Ace high
Seat 9: tilttaker101 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: hocke101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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ummm... pretty standard bad beat??? this isn't anything too crazy

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Your suck out got out sucked.
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Least my suckput had an excuse.... jeesh.... just wondering if I missed anything here... like what do you guys think about my play?
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:55 PM
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Actually...I'll be honest, I don't like your play.

Preflop: Ok, not a bad hand, Have position over everybody but the PF raiser (although I may have raised with this hand in this late of position, I'm not that familar with 6 handed play). I can see calling his raise and hoping for a flop.

Post flop: Either bet or check fold here. Not too many hands you have beat (from the PF raiser) other then a pure bluff or continuation bet. Even if he's missed his hand, given the PF raise, do you think he's making that play with something less then a pair of tens? I'm guess since you posted the blind, this is your first hand at the table so you don't have a read on him.

I think I would have bet into the PF raiser mainly for information. If he has an underpair that he raised with, he's probably folding, if he missed his hand (AK) he may fold or at most call and if he has an over pair, he's raising and you know where you are. With the check, he could have a hand, he could be making a continuation bet. The calls after his bet would warn me that somebody out there has a pair of queens and you're behind at the flop. I'm leaving the hand and waiting for a better one.

Turn: Now you have middle pair with the high flush draw. Here again, I'm betting out. Either I can get somebody with a better hand to lay it down or I'm making people on pure draws pay. With the PF raiser still betting, I'm guessing he's probably still on a over pair. The only difference is because of mistakes (imho) made on the flop, your commited to calling this bet. You still have no idea where you're at in relation to the rest of the field.

River: When the new bettor enters the pic, I would guess that he has the made flush and probably would have just called him down. The check raise would tell me that somebody has the nut flush and I'm probably going to try to save my money. At this point, it's possible that he could be bluffing, and the call would be warrented to because of pot odds...but I would have called expecting to see myself beat.
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it looked good as far as play, idk what he was calling for...

maybe you could have bet out the flop, assuming you'll get raised, but his raise would shut out the rest of the field and some draws.
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Preflop, why not raise from the cutoff with only two limpers in ahead of you? Apparently, the knucklehead who won the pot was prepared to a call raise from the SB with only A6s, but more solid players will often dump that speculative hand rather than play it for 2 bets from early position. That increases your outs if the flush draw is one of the reasons you want to play this hand.
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I probably would have raised PF.

On the flop, if I acted after the raiser I would have raised to drive people out, with your lousy position on the raiser and a 2 flush on the board it makes the play more difficult. You are not going to get any info with a bet and a raise probably won't drive anyone out.
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I probably would have raised PF.
same. i'd also think hard about capping the river, but it's pretty dependent. the only thing that beats you is the Runner runner nut flush.
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