How would you play it?

**Jason75** · 10-28-2005

Ok, from that tourney in the last thread. Here's the hand that broke me.

I'm in the SB with $1200 in chips, blinds are 75/150. BB has $1100, and it folds around to me. I pick up:

I raise to 600. I haven't played a hand in 2 rounds, and I've seen this guy make a couple of laydowns so I know he's capable of it.He's your stereotypical middle aged asian gambler - medium tight-very aggressive. The type that will go all in if you check to pick up the pot but plays halfway decent starting hands (I actually was watching him play in a SNG satellite before the tourney started, and just by chance he was seated next to me which I was very happy about because I already had a great read on him).

BB calls 450. Pot is $1200. Flop comes:

BINGO!!! I figure him for facecards with the call (he would have raised a PP or any Ace). I think I'm way out in front here, so I decide to trap with my TP. I check, he goes all in for his last $500. I quickly call.

Before I tell you the rest, what do you think of the play so far?

**Marm** · 10-28-2005

Obviously you lost, so something wrong happened, but You flopped top Pair with a short stack, so you gotta push. I think I may just have pushed PF.

**Antneye** · 10-28-2005

I dont like the check. The BB can have anything at all because your raise looks like a blind steal. Probably has decent cards, but you cant put him on any true range of hands. He may have caught a piece of this flop and you are giving him a shot to draw out on you. I push here, and take the pot. If I'm beat already so be it.

**bonchkid** · 10-28-2005

I raise to 375-425, or maybe just fold preflop. I don't want to put 1/2 my chipstack in preflop unless I have a solid hand. I'd like a push better than this 1/2ish raise.

If he calls you should push the flop, the worse thing you want is letting a QJ type hand have a freecard here.

**Aces-o-8s** · 10-28-2005

Originally Posted by Jason75

BINGO!!! I figure him for facecards with the call (he would have raised a PP or any Ace).

He would have raised with pocket 7-7 or pocket 2-2? I thought you said he was medium-tight. Poker Tracker has me pegged at SLAP and I wouldn't re-raise with small pocket pairs pre-flop - but then again I wouln't have raised pf with T-5s either!

**Jason75** · 10-28-2005

He's the kind of player I see live all the time. It's SB vs. BB, and I was 90% sure he would have raised all in with any ace or PP. BTW, he was on his 2nd double rebuy (had busted out 3 time already - once to me).

Anyways, he turns over:

Turn comes

River

I said "nice hand, next time I'll remember to go all in" and he said he would have called regardless - which is what I would have done with his cards in that situation (the level only had about 2 minutes remaining when we started the hand).

Anyway, went all in blind for $100 on the next hand, guy UTG raises to 600 to isolate me, turns over pocket 4's. I turn over Q8d!! I was pretty excited but then the flop came 4 4 J - the second time in about 10 hands he hit quad 4's on the flop (anybody know what the odds of that are?) and my day was over.

It was the last satellite for the big tourney. I plan to buy into the main event anyway, so we'll see how I do.

**Jason75** · 10-28-2005

My conclusion is that I should have either folded or gone all in PF - with a heavy dispostion to folding. My problem was I looked up at the clock before the hand figured I had to make a move if it folded around to me regardless of my cards.

**Antneye** · 10-28-2005

What I don't like about this play is something people always do in SB/BB situations. They put in a mega raise to steal.

With 10 5 and this play, you are most likely only getting called by a hand that has you beat. IS it really worth half your stack to make this play? Wouldn't you be better off completing and seeing a flop? You may have lost it either way, but this is far too dangerous for me. If I am going to make this play I need at least a hand that can stand up to a call

Will you honestly steal the blinds enough to make this a +EV move?

With a bigger stack you can do this, but in essence you are committing all of your stack here with a 10 and a 5.....I don't like it one bit!

**Jason75** · 10-28-2005

Actually, a little bit more of my table knowledge here that I didn't put down. The other 2 times it folded around to me in the SB and I completed he made a big raise and I folded. So I figured either fold or raise to steal. Again, I hadn't played a hand for at least 2 rounds.

BTW, T5 suited is 47% against a randomly dealt hand. But I agree, I should have folded.

**Antneye** · 10-28-2005

Something else to consider Jason. You are the SB, meaning the blinds have just passed you. If you are itching to get all your chips in the middle you have a full round of the table before you have to spend a dime. Surely you'll pick up a better hand in a spot thats not so obviously a steal if you wait.

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