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    Default Cowboys forcing out several players PF

    What do u guys think about that as a strategy?

    There were 5 other guys who posted the BB (150) in tournament play. I had cowboys on the button.

    I raised to 750 forcing them all to fold... which is what I wanted, or at least wanted to push out 3 or 4 of them.

    I was semi happy with their folding and giving the pot to me at that point. Of course, after, I began thinking I should have taken the gamble and bet just large enough to keep a few more in the game in hopes of my kings holding up through the flop where I could then take my stand.

    Any ideas on the best way to play that situation?

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    Dam I thought this thread was about football.

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    Whos drunk ass set up that tournament that 5 people had to post the bb??

    If you just got moved, you wait till the BB or after the button, if they sat out, they still had to post the blinds on their turn, regardless if they're there or not.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    lol I think he just meant 5 people called the BB
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    Honestly I prefer to raise big with Ks especialy with 4 limpers... Its better to collect 800 in blinds and bets VS getting 3 callers and see a Ac 9d Tc folp and be forced to fold.

    Well done IMHO.

    KJ

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    yea they called the BB

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    Live or online tourney? How much did you have in chips at the time?

    I'm assuming that there's 975 in the pot when it gets to you (5 callers and the SB & BB with no antes) and that everyone has around 10k in chips.

    Other than aces, any one hand is at least a 1:2.3 underdog to you (you're at least 70% against any other hand - actual odds are tough here, because we're not sure how many are going to call our raise). And that's if the hands are played down to the end, so we're actually a much bigger favorite in the hand if we play aggressively on the flop. So we really want to induce an error by someone by giving them slightly worse odds than they need to call, say 2 or 2.5:1 here.

    With so many players in the pot already, I'd raise about 2/3 pot (remember, your 150 call is part of the pot of $1125 and not part of your raise) - about $750 here to a total of $900. Your raise of $600 gives you opponents odds of 2.8:1 (making a call with any ace a technically correct play if the hand would be checked down to the river), a little better than I'd like to see but not so bad.

    Obviously no one feels too good about their hands here and decides to fold. I wouldn't be unhappy by taking the pot down here - there isn't any action that you really want (just think if one of these speculative hands hit the flop hard!).
    Last edited by Jason75; 10-16-2005 at 04:54 PM.

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    Oh, here's how I figure out my raises:

    My raise = Pot/(Odds I want them to have - 1)

    So here, I wanted to give them 2.5:1 odds so:

    My raise = 1125/(2.5 -1)

    My raise = 1125/1.5 (1.5 is the same as 3/2, so I just do 2/3 of the pot)

    My raise = about 750

    You don't have to do that kind of math in your head, just memorize the handy ones:

    3:1 (or 25% to 75%) is 1/2 of the pot
    2.5:1 (or 29% to 71%) is 2/3 of the pot
    2:1 (or 33% to 66.7%) is the pot

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