Looks like UTG+1 made a mistake with a huge pocket pair and only got 6100 in chips instead of at least doubling up.

Probably a good laydown.

The thing that would affect my play would be if you're likely to be heads-up, if you put him on a pair then probably don't call, but otherwise call - it's a coin-flip, but you had a lot more chips than him, and stood to knock out a vulnerable player.
His chip stack may not have been that bad compared to the Blinds, but the player was easily the short-stack on the table, so you'd figure them as being more likely to play something like AX or the like.
I'd have had to think about it, too, but the main influence on whether to call that would have been what quality of cards you'd have expected him to go all in on.

Hero raises to t6100, UTG+1 raises to t28112, 6 folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t34812
Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG+1 wins t34812.

Did you load this wrong? Where did the blinds go? (thought it was 1000/2000)

Hold on....am I missing something here?


Marm acted before the All-in. Everyone else acts before Marm. Marm is not caught in a sandwich.

Considering the fact that the raiser would have position on Marm, I do not mind a call because my cards can be played down to the end. But you have to ask what the guy was thinking. He is facing one raise, knows he will have position on the raiser, yet still elects to push his stack even though he still has a little playability left in his stack. This leads me to believe he has a mid to high PP and probably has you beat. I would have probably folded here. If his stack was a little smaller I think you can safely put him on AX and make the call for the race.

Other thinking he could employ is that everyone else is caught in the sandwich so they will fold, and he is making a move on you to pick up your raise. I doubt this is the case, because your raise from UTG implies real strength. If your raise was a little larger, I might think you were weaker, but a standard raise here implies you want to play this hand. The more I think about it, the more I feel he is holding QQ-AA and was hoping you'd call him.

Did you get to see his cards?

Originally Posted by Jason75

Hero raises to t6100, UTG+1 raises to t28112, 6 folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t34812
Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG+1 wins t34812.

Did you load this wrong? Where did the blinds go? (thought it was 1000/2000)

Good point, there was close to 38k in the pot, antes too. Marm had been raising a lot.

I thought this was about 50/50. I waited until he acted though to say anything, didnt want him losing another 22k because of me, but I may have called. I would like the pot to be a little bigger, but I probably would have opened from a bigger raise if I raised.

Originally Posted by Antneye

Hold on....am I missing something here?


Marm acted before the All-in. Everyone else acts before Marm. Marm is not caught in a sandwich.

Right, Marm isn't caught in the sandwich, he's the other end of it. The guy has caught the rest of the table in the sandwich, and at the same time forced Marm to make a significant decision for 1/3 of his chips.

Consider the hands Marm could be raising with if he were a tight player: unpaired aces down to AJs/ATs, KQs, and pocket pairs down to 88 (I would not have put Marm on 66 unless I thought he was a loose player). Now of those, which ones do you really want to call an all in with? Anything other than the big PP (AA, KK, QQ) is at best a coinflip or at worst totally dominated.

So you don't actualy need a big PP to make this move, you just need Marm not to have AA, KK, or QQ (although some players - not many but some - may decide that they can do better than risk 1/3 of their stack with QQ here and fold as well). This move can be made as a semi-bluff (for instance, if I pick up A8o) or outright bluff ala Dan Harrington in the 2004 WSOP final table when he put his tourney on the line and made it with 62o. But it is a situational move - in other words not dependent on the cards you hold.

I would fold here. I rule out AA to QQ, because he would have doubled your bet or something like that to extract more money. He may have any PP or A10+ (I personally think it is something like 99 to JJ). If you like to raise a lot of pot, let this one go and use the 20k that you would have lost to raise the next pots.

Good fold.

What was the buy-in?