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    Default "Check in the dark"

    I was watching the WSOP final table from this year (I tivoed it and watched it last night), and I was impressed by how well Dave Williams' "check in the dark" play worked. He got Arieh to push into his set, and instantly doubled up. However, I have my doubts about whether it always works that perfectly.

    I was wondering what the point was of checking in the dark. I've always known it was legal, but never have I been taught why it's a good strategy. I mean, of course you always check pocket pairs (since if the flop misses you get away from the hand and if it hits you slowplay), but still... doesn't that mean that a dark check makes it obvious that you have a little pair? I don't see how it gives you an advantage to announce that.

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    prior to this, i would say it was a very rare move, but using it now it makes you look like a complete idiot trying to impersonate pros(which can be good low limit). to a lot of low limit players, they will second guess any kind of play they would make trying to figure you out. i think if you used it quiet a bit, it would be a good idea to mix it in and represent a possible set being flopped for a free card.

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    Its really NOT that great of a play. And Dave Williams wasnt the one who started it, it was that Markus Luske (sp) guy, he taught willaims it.
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    MARCEL Luske you mean.

    Yeah, I knew it was his play. I was just wondering why he used it.

    Oh well, I agree with you bonch... don't see what's so good about the play.

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    It's a hell of a lot better than John Juanda's all in in the dark vs Daniel Negreanu... lol that was ridiculous!

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    It's not really a PLAY. Arieh's very aggressive, was the aggressor in the hand, and was behind him in the hand. People do this as a positional move with marginal hands or when they feel their vulnerable weak hand is the best at the time.

    He does this to avoid trapping himself. I don't like it and I've done it in limit if I'm calling someone down regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto
    It's a hell of a lot better than John Juanda's all in in the dark vs Daniel Negreanu... lol that was ridiculous!
    Whoa.

    When did that happen?

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    That was the final table of the rebuy event. ESPN sucks.

    They didn't mention once that Negreanu needed to finish at least 6th to break even.
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    8th im pretty sure ... but you are right alex. He rebought 27? times

    CHecking in the dark is really no different than just checking except it MIGHT get you a free card occasionaly when your opponent goes O__o
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    *sudden epiphany*

    Darkchecking AA would be an interesting way to slowplay actually.

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