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    Default AA hand

    #Game No : 2839953340
    ***** Hand History for Game 2839953340 *****
    $25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 07, 20:59:14 EDT 2005
    Table Table 37100 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: tank_MB ( $37.60 )
    Seat 6: Hero ( $17.95 )
    Seat 7: Mixing311 ( $31 )
    Seat 9: PokerVarmint ( $25.55 )
    Seat 10: TOLGA666 ( $34.40 )
    Seat 2: pickepock ( $19.25 )
    Seat 3: csylvia79 ( $21.20 )
    Seat 5: kvby66 ( $24.50 )
    Seat 8: Kain1981 ( $28.70 )
    Seat 4: Falcon_97 ( $25 )
    Mixing311 posts small blind [$0.10].
    Kain1981 posts big blind [$0.25].
    Falcon_97 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ ]
    PokerVarmint calls [$0.25].
    TOLGA666 calls [$0.25].
    tank_MB folds.
    pickepock folds.
    csylvia79 folds.
    Falcon_97 checks.
    kvby66 folds.
    >You have options at Table 37591 Table!.
    Hero raises [$1.20].
    Mixing311 folds.
    Kain1981 folds.
    PokerVarmint calls [$0.95].
    TOLGA666 calls [$0.95].
    Falcon_97 calls [$0.95].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
    PokerVarmint checks.
    TOLGA666 checks.
    >You have options at Table 37591 Table!.
    Falcon_97 bets [$2].
    >You have options at Table 37031 Table!.
    Hero..


    Just arrived and got this in first few hands so I dunno

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    Fist off, rebuy upto the full amount. anyways...

    Do a weak massage raise, feelilng him out, but one that also looks like you want a call, about $5 or so. Something that you can release if he raises, and check/fold the turn if he calls. Granted, some arent goign to like this, but I like finding out where peple are at.

    Of course, the sensible option is to fold.
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marm
    Of course, the sensible option is to fold.
    Anytime there's a pocket pair on the board and it ain't yours and especially if you have pocket rockets - the best starting hand in hold'em - then absolutley, tuck your tail between your legs and run for cover. Then quit poker - this ain't your game!

    Before Marm chicken-scrached this option, the weak raise was a good advice.

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    i might have put in a bigger raise preflop but after the flop im defintly run scared like a little girl
    If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone

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    Default Fold every day of the week and twice on Sunday

    I know it's tough, but don't try and get cute here just because you had the holy grail hand before the flop.

    I don't see a point in raising. You're up against 3 opponents who called your raise - do you really think no one has a king? I never try to bluff more than 2 opponents at a time - and raising here against 3 opponents (one which bet out on the flop) is pretty much a stone cold bluff with those kings staring you down.

    Even if no one does have a king this time, do you really think raising in this situation is a long term $ winner? Just do what I do, scream evil obscenities at the screen (and ignore the banging at the door in 10 minutes, it's just your neighbors calling the cops again, they'll go away) and chuck this worthless hand in the muck.

    Repeat after me - "It's just a pair, it's just a pair, it's just a p . . . FUCK!!!!"

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    Thanks Marm and others. Jason your replies rule dude.
    I and the others folded and he didn't show. but I did the phil laak thing against johnny chan at pot limit holdem at wsop: "AHHHHH.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh...*painful scream*...AHHHHHHH"

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    Quote Originally Posted by coash
    Thanks Marm and others. Jason your replies rule dude.
    I and the others folded and he didn't show. but I did the phil laak thing against johnny chan at pot limit holdem at wsop: "AHHHHH.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh...*painful scream*...AHHHHHHH"
    A couple of days ago I was in an early position -loose and somewhat passive table - and got a Q-T unsuited. 3 other plus the BB limped in behind me.

    The flop was K-Q-T
    BB checked, I checked, Mid1 bets, late1 calls,Late2 folds, BB folds, I raise, Mid1 re-raises, Late1 folds, I call.

    Turn = Q - I have a full house
    I check, Mid1 bets, I re-raise, Mid1 calls (not folds - calls)

    River = Q - I now have quads
    I bet and we cap the bets;

    Showdown - I have 4Q-K and Mid1 has 2K-3Q (and a T left in the hole)

    Moral - you ain't beat until your beat. On the flop I asked myself "Am I beat?" and the answer was 'maybe' as Mid1 was not an overly aggressive player nor one to overrate his hands. A str8 was possible but Mid1 would usually pf raise with A-J, A-Q or A-K to thin the field behind him. The K was an overcard and although I had two pair and I couldn't be sure Mid1 wouldn't just limp in with K-Q or K-J or K-T instead of raising. J-9? maybe if suited!
    On the Turn, Mid1 probably asked the same question and also got a 'maybe' so called instead of folding!
    Using the fold advice given, I should have also folded on the flop 'just in case' I was beat and save myself an extra bet. I didn't need the river card on this hand and likely wouldn't have seen it if the Turn card and betting was negitive but the point is, for one more bet I am rewarded but WITH A FLOP FOLD, I BEAT MYSELF!
    With pocket rockets vs opps who limp in and a board 9-K-K, I want to feel out the others and at least/hopefully see the Turn. Don't forget it was the BB who bet out (which I see all the time when a board flops a pair) and gage that bet as a caution flag and not terms for unconditional surrender!
    Maybe in the longrun I lose several small bets but at least I'll also have several otherwise 'lost pots' to console myself with as a morn just how wrong my thinking is. :rockpoker
    Last edited by Aces-o-8s; 10-08-2005 at 09:41 AM.

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    Raise to $5.55 on the flop.
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    Nice hand..Since there paying it cheap.. stay in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces-o-8s
    A couple of days ago I was in an early position -loose and somewhat passive table - and got a Q-T unsuited. 3 other plus the BB limped in behind me.

    The flop was K-Q-T
    BB checked, I checked, Mid1 bets, late1 calls,Late2 folds, BB folds, I raise, Mid1 re-raises, Late1 folds, I call.

    Turn = Q - I have a full house
    I check, Mid1 bets, I re-raise, Mid1 calls (not folds - calls)

    River = Q - I now have quads
    I bet and we cap the bets;

    Showdown - I have 4Q-K and Mid1 has 2K-3Q (and a T left in the hole)

    Moral - you ain't beat until your beat. On the flop I asked myself "Am I beat?" and the answer was 'maybe' as Mid1 was not an overly aggressive player nor one to overrate his hands. A str8 was possible but Mid1 would usually pf raise with A-J, A-Q or A-K to thin the field behind him. The K was an overcard and although I had two pair and I couldn't be sure Mid1 wouldn't just limp in with K-Q or K-J or K-T instead of raising. J-9? maybe if suited!
    On the Turn, Mid1 probably asked the same question and also got a 'maybe' so called instead of folding!
    Using the fold advice given, I should have also folded on the flop 'just in case' I was beat and save myself an extra bet. I didn't need the river card on this hand and likely wouldn't have seen it if the Turn card and betting was negitive but the point is, for one more bet I am rewarded but WITH A FLOP FOLD, I BEAT MYSELF!
    With pocket rockets vs opps who limp in and a board 9-K-K, I want to feel out the others and at least/hopefully see the Turn. Don't forget it was the BB who bet out (which I see all the time when a board flops a pair) and gage that bet as a caution flag and not terms for unconditional surrender!
    Maybe in the longrun I lose several small bets but at least I'll also have several otherwise 'lost pots' to console myself with as a morn just how wrong my thinking is. :rockpoker
    Playing limit, though, you can usually get away with calling him down. If it was NL, and he threw a huge raise at you on the flop, what do you do?
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