Ok, I got PT a couple days ago, and I've logged 2724 hands so far (had some logged before the purchase). I know the sample size is small, but I was hoping some of the wiser gentlemen could comment on this.
Total hand: 2724
VPiP: 21.48%
VPiPSB: 41.16%
Folded SB to steal?: 100%
Folded BB to steal?: 60%
Att to steal blinds?: 23.44%
Won$ WSF%: 35.9%
Amount won: (-$.95)
BB/100: (.07)
Went to SD%: 34.71%
Won $ at SD%: 45.59%
pf Raise %: 8.11%
Total Rake $13.00
I'm thinking that these stats don't look that bad, however I'm losing money (not much, but the last few weeks I've been a break even player). I'm also not sure how the steal stats are defined.
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Thread: PT stats...uhm, help?
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09-24-2005 #1
PT stats...uhm, help?
Trons
Originally Posted by Jason75
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09-24-2005 #2
Total hand: 2724, definetly not enough hands to start saying why am I losing
VPiPSB: 41.16%, too high for my liking. Play the SB like you would a hand from EP.Read my musings on poker and life at Online Poker Examiner, Poker Examiner, PokerNewsBoy.com, and My Poker Blog
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09-24-2005 #3
I can do that, however I thought it was correct to play weak drawing hands for half bet from the small blind with 3-5 players limped in? I'm talking about hands like suited 1-2 gappers>5, 23suited+ and 56o+. That's why I come in so much from the SB. However, easy to change that.
I've also noticed that my middle position play has been a -EV, I've already tightened up my play from those positions, so I expect that to change also.
I know the sample size is low, but I've read here several times that it's suggested that a new player buy PT, log 2500 hands and post. I thought the stats looked ok, but I wanted some reassurances that I didn't have any glaring problems so far. I'll repost at 10k. My positional stats actually gave me more information, but the problems there were easy for me to spot and make corrections.Trons
Originally Posted by Jason75
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09-24-2005 #4
Looks to me that you are $12.05 up, but the rake has eaten that plus what you are down. I'd keep playing and see where you are later. If you can find some specific instances where you are leaking chips, plug them.
For example, I was cold calling A10o until I discovered it was a leak. I'd have never noticed without PT.I study at KRE8R's School of Bankroll Management.
If you IM me looking for money or a trade, you will be blocked.
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09-24-2005 #5PokerForums God
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This is for NL right?
Don't rely on SSH for NL advice.
You W$SD is low, it should be over 50%, which means you are taking a few too many losers to the river. You PFR seems high for NL too, NL and limit raising hands are not the same.
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09-24-2005 #6
This is limit. I haven't ventured into the NL realm yet. I wanted to have a very firm grasp of limit before I tried.
my 2 biggest losing hands are KJo, and KK. I looked through the histories on the KJo and it seems I've gotten unlucky with those (my two pair loses to trips type thing) and my KK I've lost so much for that I've actually gotten afraid of playing them. I've been playing them aggressively both PF and after the flop. There again, most of it was jst the cards. Trips lose to a low str8 that shouldn't have been played, KK loses to a lower 2 pair type hands. I've already tightened up my KJo play, not sure how to change my KK play.
Again, my positional stats showed a better picture of my weaknesses. At about 2400 hands, I had all 3 MP in the red. I've gotten one of those green and lowered the amount of red in the other 2 by tightening up my play in those position. I looked at the histories and slapped myself. Not sure why I played some of those hands from those positions, but that was a pretty big leak.Trons
Originally Posted by Jason75
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09-24-2005 #7PokerForums God
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How do you play KJo?
KJo is a about breakeven for me. I really don't like that hand, especially on really loose tables.
For 7k hands .25/.5 and below my stats are:
VPIP - 24.36%
VPIPSB - 51%
WtSD - 33.44
W$SD- 8.88%
BB/100 - 8.17
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09-24-2005 #8Poker Hustler
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Don't worry about it too much yet Trons, you'll get there or you may already be there.
I would recommend being more aggressive, these 0.25/.5 tables at Pokerstars are just riddled with tight passive players. So maybe play fewer hands and be more aggressive with them.
Take into account the type of players more aswell, they calling stations? Maniacs? etc....adjust your play accordingly and don't try and be too fancy. Solid straightforward play will get paid off.
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09-24-2005 #9
who is jealous?
it's better to be pissed off than pissed on
missot on stars. come to my poker vent server! (its a voice chat program)
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09-24-2005 #10
I don't know what PT syas about this, but I am one who almost never lays down the SB unless the pot is raised in front of me. With even just a few limpers I am getting the right pot odds to complete regardless of my cards. Maybe I am wrong................
Originally Posted by Trons
.10/.20 (just to keep it simple)
BB .20........3 limpers for .60 total.........my .10.........
.90 in pot.....10 cents to complete....thats 9 to 1 odds. Tell me a hand that you wouldn't play getting 9 to 1 on your money?
Even with 2 limpers you are getting 7 to 1.
1 limper 5 to 1.
no limpers its me vs the BB and I am probably raising.
I see no reason to fold an SB if theres no raise.
What am I missing?
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