I would have been more aggressive. First of all you have to think you are winning pre flop. While sometimes it's tough to sniff out a set of quads, I'm willing to lose to them with what I know is the biggest boat on the table. Would I put my house on the line? Probably not. Gotta slow you down a bit. But with the biggest boat on the table, outside of JJ, I would be inclined to re raise his raise.

I probably would have done the same thing. Look at what beats you. AA, KK, JJ, and 99 are not likely unless this player is one who slowplays pairs preflop (Remember he called twice). If that is the case, JJ is likely. It all depends on how he had been playing.

Looking at the other hands that beat you... 7x is always a possibility. Even 72 and 73 at these limits. And the way he played, I would have figured him for having it (saving the raise for the river. Too many players slow play monsters). So I think your call of his river raise was a good play because I feel that he only would have called a reraise if he could beat you.

My thought is that he put you on a big ace and/or was just trying to buy the pot.

The only thing I would have done differently would be to bet a little bigger on the flop. There's a flush waiting to happen and you gave him great odds to chase it. (Almost 9 to 1). This is the only place I would have been more aggressive.

Slowplaying or sandbagging with the nuts is a legitament strategy but too often over done in my opinion.
You said 'I wasn't at the table long enough to see how this guy played alot of hands' so I assume he had about the same info on you and your play - ya it works both ways! I always make a note on a player who slowplays me figuring he will repeat more often than not so am cautious when a pre-flop raiser is suddenly just calling along.

Also, I prefer to make an oppenent play for the privilage of beating me - especially if there is a chance I may not have the nuts - so will slowplay less often. This gives a tight preception and allows me to semi-bluff or force a less powerful hand thru when the opps figures I play straight up more often than not. Having said that, with a big pocket pair that tripped up or better on the flop, I slow down to give the opps a chance to catch up a little before lowering the boom but I have to be pretty sure I have the nuts and will not get drawn out.

Originally Posted by Marm

No reason not to get all your money in on the river.

Wtf is with the pansy flop bet? No less than .20 there if you want to be weak.

at least .30 on the turn, and get it all in on the river.

Probably not the best idea but, I was a little gun shy (at different tables) earlier I had my pocket KK cracked when someone pushed all in. And I had some other guy playing a 5,9 off that would't go away after making a pot sized bet on the flop, and 1.5x the pot on the turn when I had trip 6's. He caught a 3 on the river and gave him a str8. Know it's not the proper way to play but last week and a half hasn't been great when it comes to hands. But point well taken anyway.

Originally Posted by Marm

No reason not to get all your money in on the river.

Wtf is with the pansy flop bet? No less than .20 there if you want to be weak.

at least .30 on the turn, and get it all in on the river.

I disagree, he has a 200BB stack, no reason to lose it all to 9s or JavaScript full.


You definitely weren't getting any more money out of him. This is one of those way ahead, way behind spots.

A 3rd raise gives you a good chance of getting all-in with a huge stack on the river and about 5th or 6th nuts. I think you played it fine.

How much of that 95% are you getting called? Look at his river play, he had 777JJ or better if you are getting called.

With short stacks I would agree, but no reason to get into a war with 200bb stack and a smallish pot.

Maybe this is why you stick to limit Marm?