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Thread: Justified fold?

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    Default Justified fold?

    Again for all you O8b players. I am having a little difficulty knowing exactly when to play for my draws. Here is another example.

    PokerStars 1/2 Omaha/8 (8 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with , , , .
    Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 5 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

    This is about the crapiest hands I will play, there are 3 wheel cards and with a good flop a hand like this can be profitable. The game was fairly loose so I was expecting at least 4-5 more people to follow me into the pot. I really didn't like calling the raise, but I felt I had to at that point.

    Flop: (7.50 SB) , , (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 raises, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

    Here is my problem I caught a fair bit of this flop, an A gives me the wheel and a 6 gives me a 6 high straight. So that is really only 6 outs, since a diamond will probably give someone the flush. My thinking here may be a little off, but I don't think the pot was giving me odds to call the bet, is this correct?

    Turn and river in white since they don't matter


    Turn: (5.75 BB) :6C (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.

    River: (7.75 BB) :9H (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, UTG+1 calls.

    Final Pot: 9.75 BB

    Results in white below:
    UTG+1 has 4c 2s 8h Ac (Low: 8, 6, 4, 2, A | High: two pair, fours and twos).
    MP1 has 3d Ah Qs Qh (Low: 6, 4, 3, 2, A | High: one pair, queens).
    Outcome: MP1 wins 4.87 BB. UTG+1 wins 4.87 BB.

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    I think its a good fold, you're looking at 4 outs for the low, 6 for the nut str8, and no other draws. Too many draws out there, and your low is weak, while the nut low, its only got 4 outs....
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    if there are regular raises, no way I play that PF.

    fold the flop to a bet and raise, I think. You probably only have 2-3 out for the scoop that are live.

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    This game was fairly passive PF, hence my limp and this was probably on the bottom end of playable for me. I does look great when an A gets spiked on the flop though.

    I would have called the one bet on the flop definately, I may have even called a 2 bet (well maybe 1/3 of the time) but here I was certainly thinking that it may have been 3 bet or even capped based on the action. Hence I got out.

    I was probably doubting my play because a 6 hit on the turn, but with the flush draw and needing an A for the nut low I figured it was best to get out.

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