I personally would not play the flop for a bet and a raise, I figure i am far behind drawing to a 10 or non heart 9, possibly an 8. Then the flush hit. I don't know if I raise here. If I am raising i probably make any weaker hand than two pair fold (apparently not in this case, but usually) and if im against a flush or straight they call me down at the very least, maybe even pop me again. It is better to check/call this hand hoping you are against a bluff, top pair, or an overpair, imo.

Originally Posted by Trons

I'm going to go through my thoughts at each stage, it's my thought process I want corrected if wrong. Not being results oriented here at PFO, the fact I won doesn't excuse the playing

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

Normally I would fold this hand in this position in a raised pot, but I figured by the time it got to me, the pot was fairly large and 2 people I figured would call, making it bigger.

Flop: (13.40 SB) , , (6 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Again, the pot is large when UTG bets and MP3 raises. IRC, the pot was about $4.90 (or so, not doing the math) when it got to me, I figured the next 2 to act would jst call the raise which would push it up over $5 giving me better then 10:1 on my money. I had MPWK, but calculated my outs to be 2 10's, 3 8's or 4 9's...I had UTG on a pair of jacks and MP on an over pair.

Turn: (11.70 BB) (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

When the 8 fell, giving me 2 pair (with a very possibly str8 on the board), I got happy and scared at the same time. I figured a check/raise would be the way to see who had the hand. I guess MP3 would bet (as he had been doing). Anybody else who raised would have the str8...

River: (16.70 BB) (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 folds.

Couldn't ask for a better result. but did I play it right or did I get lucky?

Final Pot: 17.70 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 8d Td (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 17.70 BB.

two bets into a 17sb pot, and it could get 3-bet and capped?

pot odds are 8.5:1 and could be as bad as 5.25:1

You have 9 outs, but none of them to the nuts.

2 enable flushes, and 8s and 9s give better straight oppotunities. And even if you hit a clean out on the turn, you could still lose on the river a number of ways.

probably have somewhere between 5-6 outs, maybe less. Doesn't seem good enough to me.

The call pre-flop is fine to me, you get in cheap with suited one-gaper with lots of people already in the pot.

Post flop, that's really ugly. This is what was discussed so heatedily in Steve-O's post regarding minor pre-flop mistakes leading to nasty post flop mistakes.

You hit middle pair with a weak kicker, and have a potential gut-shot, however it is only a 3 outer due to the flush possibilities. You really calculated your odds wrong aswell. 8 is a terrible card for you here, 3 nines may be good or you may be dominated, and your 10 may also be dominated. Calling that flop 3 bet was a mistake.

betting the turn was also a mistake the was probably the last card I would want to see here. Anyone holding a 9 has you drawing to 4 outs, anyone with 2 hearts has you. You gotta think "what were these people ramming the pot with on the flop", unless they all have over-pairs or top pair good kicker you are done.

You are fortunate here, your opponents must have had just over-pairs or top pair. In a heads-up situation your play is fine, however full tabled this isn't that good