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Old 08-29-2005, 08:46 PM
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PokerStars Game #2455031083: Tournament #11805437, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/08/29 - 23:19:59 (ET)
Table '11805437 147' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: rickb17 (2940 in chips)
Seat 2: ddbloom (3240 in chips)
Seat 3: LillyGrl (1475 in chips)
Seat 5: abk031 (1800 in chips)
Seat 6: joe32543 (2365 in chips)
Seat 7: mchelle1 (1960 in chips)
Seat 8: Elusya (1730 in chips)
Seat 9: hollerholler (2610 in chips)
joe32543: posts small blind 25
mchelle1: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joe32543 [Qh Qd]
Elusya: folds
hollerholler: calls 50
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rickb17: calls 50
ddbloom: folds
LillyGrl: calls 50
abk031: folds
joe32543: raises 200 to 250
mchelle1: folds
hollerholler: calls 200
rickb17: calls 200
LillyGrl: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [3s 4s 5h]
joe32543: bets 1000
hollerholler: folds
rickb17: raises 1690 to 2690 and is all-in
LillyGrl: folds
joe32543: calls 1115 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3s 4s 5h] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3s 4s 5h Ts] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joe32543: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
rickb17: shows [9s Ks] (a flush, King high)
rickb17 collected 5280 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5280 | Rake 0
Board [3s 4s 5h Ts 2h]
Seat 1: rickb17 showed [9s Ks] and won (5280) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: ddbloom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: LillyGrl folded on the Flop
Seat 5: abk031 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: joe32543 (small blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: mchelle1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Elusya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: hollerholler folded on the Flop



I didn't play that wrong did I? The way I see it, he played the hand wrong the whole way. From calling the PF blind, to calling the raise, and then going all-in. In a SNG maybe I play this differently, but in a MTT I have to accumulate chips rather quickly. Any comments on my play. I'll explain my flop bet. It was just about the size of the pot, and it left me enough money if a spade fell on the turn. When he went all-in, I was pretty sure I was ahead, so this was a nobrainer call. Right?
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:58 PM
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Ummm you have to ask?

You played this spot on.... maybe a touch bigger PF raise, just to isolate due to the callyness of players early in a MTT, but thats a moot point.....
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:15 AM
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Poorly disguised bad beat post.
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:47 AM
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Poorly disguised bad beat post.
Not really. I was wondering if this guy actually had the odds to draw to his hand. If he knew I would call the all-in, then he was risking 2115 for a
3115 pot. Thats almost 1.5-1 odds. If he knows my hand, then he has right in making this play...right? He's 46% to win the hand after the flop.

Edit- If this is true, then there was really no way I could have made this EV- for him.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:09 AM
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Not really. I was wondering if this guy actually had the odds to draw to his hand. If he knew I would call the all-in, then he was risking 2115 for a
3115 pot. Thats almost 1.5-1 odds. If he knows my hand, then he has right in making this play...right? He's 46% to win the hand after the flop.

Edit- If this is true, then there was really no way I could have made this EV- for him.

i didnt added it up but if your 1.5-1 is right it is a somewhat negative play because a flush is 2.1 - 1 i beleive but the only thing i might have done differently is raise it alittle more preflop but other then that you played it great
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Is my math right? Anyone?
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