I just start to play this game, and I have pretty good succes. (2 ITM in 4 tournaments (50 to 100 players))

I think I play near perfection post flop, but my preflop game worries me a bit. I think it's what keeps me, at best, average stack all the way.

Usualy I will play very tight and agressive as I do in NLH and I try to steal in late position.

1st: I realize that its a lot more difficult to steal even with a duck ass image... is that normal?
2nd: Is hand such as AKxx, 789T, 8899 are playable?

I ask these questions, cuz I had a few big hands broke by these kind by players who reached the final table.

Are they good or bad players? Very hard to say for a newB like me.

KJ

first off, wtg on your success thus far, keep it up. now:

1st: Yes, it is much more difficult to steal preflop, because obviously, with 4 starting cards, preflop standards are a little more lax, and people are willing to see more flops.

2nd: if I play AK-xx i'd like the xx to be 78,89,9T, even better if i'm double suited, but mostly it depends on position.
as far as 8899, etc... goes, most of the time i will see flops with 2 pair in my hand, because of the increased set opportunities, and chance to get paid off nicely.
789T is one of my favorite hands to play, for the same reasons i like suited connectors in NLHE- if i miss the flop, they're easy to get away from, and i have a ton of straight opportunities with it.
Just my opinions, and i admit i play looser than most, so it'd probably be good to get steve-o's two cents, along with others

TY...

I'll try to loose up a little bit.

Any other comments or strategy?

KJ

Playable in mid late position and only in unraised pots.In a raised pot these hands are absolute garbage in tourneys and even worse in pot limit ring games as a preflop raise in most pot limit omaha ring games almost always staring down the possibility of a high pair and even if you flop a set with your 88 or 99 you could be in deep trouble with and over on board.Recipe for getting broke.As far as 7-8-9-10 well it has potential but not for a raise in my opinion.A-K xx is not a good hand in omaha unless you can get in cheap.
The main thing to remember in this game is you want all four cards in your hand to be coordinated with no danglers such as K-Q-J-10 and so on.A hand with just one dangler like K-Q-J-3 drops its value tremendously in omaha.
The other thing to look at is you always want to either have the nuts on the flop or be drawing to the nuts after the flop.If your draw is not to the nuts it can cost you a ton of money drawing to second best flush or second best str8.Even if you get there chances are someone is drawing to the nuts and your drawing dead.
And of course make sure your pot odds are correct before putting a dime into the pot on any draw hand.Trips look awful good in this game but if a flush or str8 is already on board they are not as good as they look if your not getting the right price to put your money in.
And dont be one of these people who gets ACES or KINGS and start getting everything in preflop it works at times but there are always a couple that come at you and if you dont flop a set many times the aces are useless after the flop.Remember its not holdem its a four card game.Just my opinion but i dont want to risk my whole stack on aces as many players will and then get there stack blown up by someone who flops two pair and comes out on the flop with a huge bet.Now what.A standard 3-4-5 times raise will usually clear out the garbage and you can still get away from ACES or Kings if you dont like the flop.
Anyway i could go on for hours on this game as we used to play it in house games with 5 cards dealt preflop.A great game if you stick to strong starting hands and strong draws.It is tempting to play more hands as four cards gives many people a reason to chase.Avoid this at all costs.
Just my two cents and GL AT THE TABLES

go back and search the archives Alex and I had a few good threads on this.

If I remember the debates were pretty heated which means the content is usually good

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nice post, and my grandpa was showing me the home games he plays with 5 cards dealt preflop in the omaha, amongst other crazy games, made for some big hands thats for sure...

Jesus nu2 you are making me feel old.lol Seriously on the east coast before the woods opened in 92 there used to be tons of las vegas nights running every night of the week.Mini casinos if you will and tons of poker action with no cap on pots as they have down in florida.And house games galore and by far the most popular game dealt was omaha with 5 cards preflop called no-brainer.It did get a little ridicules when people started playing the game with two rows of board cards and calling it double no brainer.lolAnother great one was texas holdem played with 4 cards prelop and throw away one before the flop and one after the flop.A bit like pinapple but even worse.lolCertainly did provide for some wild action.Picked up my tight play playing in these games because as you can imagine omaha played with two rows of board cards no hand was safe.lol
Anyway a bit of of nostalgic topic drift but cheers to us old salts.I hate you young guns you have so much time to improve your game and become great players before you reach 25 with the explosion of online poker.But hey i aint that old and i love this game and am picking up some great tips from you young guns.GL AT THE TABLES

Hey guys TYVM!!!

Just finnished 2nd in the same MTTs. But this time I've been among the CLs all the way.

I've lossenup a little bit and I realized I hit a lot more FH and Str8 now.

I think the post flop play is so important in PLO that you can afford to play a few more hands and hope to hit or get the odds to see the turn and river.

I'm now 3/5... I think I never did it in NHL MTTs and I play for somthing like 3 years now. I think I'll love this game!!

KJ

You won't for long.

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TY for the support!!!

KJ