I think this is a pretty easy push for me, but i'd have to know some background on the players if you have any. just from what i'm seeing, I think milkman, being shortstacked, could be pushing with any ace, which you dominate, any pair, which you're coinflipped and certainly have the odds for it, or even hands like KQ-KTs, which you're also ahead. duffy i think is just calling with a very marginal hand, anything like AA or KK he probably (again, i dont know any background, so not sure) would have pushed, but has enough chips that he may make the call with even something as weak as Q-8s or 33. (ive seen worse, especially in these). him as well I think you have beat. I think you push here and are ahead in the hand. With the blinds getting bigger and like you said, a lot of preflop allins, I call here. Also, you don't really just want to slide into the money. A call here and a win sets you up with alot of chips to play with and make a run at final table/1st, so that may sway the decision as well. Just my 4 cents.

I push here too.

What has you dominated? AA, KK, QQ, AK. That's only four hands to really worry about.

What has you a slight dog? JJ to 22. Even if you are a coinflip to one of these underpairs, you are getting 2 to 1 odds on your money.

Agreed. Besides... your M was only 2... How many more chances are ya gonna get to triple up with what's probably the best hand in the next two loops of the table?

Originally Posted by Joem04

i agree with the push preflop at worst you are most likly in a coin flip situation although you could be dominated by only 3 hands aa kk ak

AQ vs QQ is a 30/70 propostion which is also close to dominated.

2100 in antes
3000 from your SB
6000 from the BB
14640 from his raise

Pot=25740

For you to call - 11640

Pot odds 2.2:1


Even if he would only make do this with AA-TT and AK, you are still getting almost the odds to call.

You stack is too small to wait for overlay from the pot - push it in.

Originally Posted by Shadypac

PokerStars Game #2392937818: Tournament #11525768, Hold'em No Limit - Level XV
(3000/6000) - 2005/08/21 - 21:22:11 (ET)
Table '11525768 85' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: buzzyou (158970 in chips)
Seat 2: shadypac84 (23159 in chips)
Seat 4: yellodragon9 (130622 in chips)
Seat 5: jkr1 (74495 in chips)
Seat 6: Milkman98155 (14940 in chips)
Seat 8: mossyback (94140 in chips)
Seat 9: duffybr (44140 in chips)
buzzyou: posts the ante 300
shadypac84: posts the ante 300
yellodragon9: posts the ante 300
jkr1: posts the ante 300
Milkman98155: posts the ante 300
mossyback: posts the ante 300
duffybr: posts the ante 300
shadypac84: posts small blind 3000
yellodragon9: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shadypac84 [As Qd]
jkr1: folds
Milkman98155: raises 8640 to 14640 and is all-in
jimt3 is connected
mossyback: folds
duffybr: calls 14640
buzzyou: folds

$3 rebuy about 50ish left with the blinds gettin pretty damn big as u can see. Pays out to 31. I was at about 40k but a shortstacked moved into my blind with pocket 7s and sucked out against my pocket 8s so that brought me down about 10k. Was on a cold streak as far as the cards go havent seen much in a while and the tourney has come to the point where its alot of all-in PF. Whats the move? Easy push or wait til its folded around to me with an above average hand?

Damn, I missed that somebody else called ahead of you.

I would still push, losing one player isn't going to help you, and the idiot with 44k only flat called. Probably had AT or KQ KJ, some crap.

Ok just makin sure i did the right thing, I did push and actually the first raise also had AQ, and the caller had AJ. Of course to continue my streak of beats this game the second caller caught his J. Not being results oriented i thought i made the right play, just wasnt sure if i picked the right spot against 2 players rather then 1.