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  1. #1
    Fish stephkg84's Avatar
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    Default hmmm would u have bet bigger??

    fairly tight table so i didn't want to bet to scare anyone off so do u think I bet the right amounts?


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

    saw flop|saw showdown

    MP3 (t1330)
    CO (t1480)
    Button (t2150)
    SB (t1480)
    BB (t1480)
    UTG (t1300)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    Hero (t1280)
    MP2 (t1500)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
    2 folds, Hero calls t20, 1 fold, MP3 calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t100) , , (5 players)
    SB bets t40, BB folds, Hero calls t40, MP3 calls t40, CO calls t40.

    Turn: (t260) (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t20, MP3 calls t20, CO calls t20, SB calls t20.

    River: (t340) (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t100, MP3 raises to t300, CO calls t300, SB folds, Hero raises to t500, MP3 calls t200, CO calls t200.

    Final Pot: t1840

    Results in white below:
    Hero has 4s 5s (four of a kind, fours).
    MP3 has Kh 2c (full house, fours full of kings).
    CO has 9d Kd (full house, fours full of kings).
    Outcome: Hero wins t1840.

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    fold PF. you are ep in the early stages of a tournament. you will rarely hit a flop like this. most of the flop you do hit are just draws and you dont want to be drawing out of position in a tournament. just play very tight while the blinds are low. if you had 45s on the button and there were 4 limpers or so then the play would be fine, but here you have to fold PF. its very -ev

    flop is good

    turn is retarded. not sure what that bet does? you want people to hit a boat and 20 isnt really building the pot

    river you could push and both will call. theres no way they are folding a king and some will call with a queen
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    My questions is kind of silly, but why wouldn't you re-raise All In on the river? You know you've got the nuts. You might have had 2 callers thinking they've got you nailed and you would have tripled up.

    I'm still a noob so I might be missing something here.

    Pilket

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    Default River Raise

    It depends on the aggressiveness of the table. If you have an aggressive table you didn't raise enought if you have a passive table you raised the right amount. I probably would have raised about 200 more, they would've called (at an aggressive table)

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    Betting 20 into a 260 pot is just silly. When the third 4 came up they both figured they had the nuts... betting 200 there you'll get calls, and when you re-raise all-in on the river you'll get called as well.

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    It was a very tight passive table a lot were afraid to bet when they had something.

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    Fold preflop. Flops is fine. If you want to underbet the pot make it 80 at least. You should consider pushing the river if you're against idiots. You can maybe get a call from a queen and a king will call.
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

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    yea push the river i made the same mistake the other day with a similar hand. People dont play being afraid of quads, at least not many i know in these games. U will get at least one caller cause one if not both of them have a K and think they cant be beat and u might be trying to buy.

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    You can only play stuff like that PF in EP when:

    1. the blinds are low
    2. the table is table is passive

    You have good implied odds, if the table is passive. If there are aggressive pre-flop and post flop raises, you can't play stuff this weak profitably unless you are an absolute expert post-flop.


    You not only need to see a flop cheaply, you need to be able to draw cheaply too.

    The more passive the table is, the less I worry about position w/drawing hands. You can't raise for a free card, or semi-bluff, but you don't really need to too.

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    Absolutely I would have bet more...

    I would have raise all in on the river to make think you what to bluff Qs or another 4!

    He would have called big time! In fact, I may have called that too!!!

    KJ

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