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The situation was 3 people go all in ahead of you, you have KJs. You are getting 4:1 odds.KJ vs 4 all-in could very likely be a 7:1 dog."
If the 4 all in opponents ahead of you had AA,AK,QQ &KK the worst possible situation your KJs would be a 6-1 dog NOT 7-1 !!!!!
(AA= 62.9 % to win / KJs= 10.2% to win)
Can you tell me, based on this guys calcs, why 6:1 is so wrong? I would like new people to answer this first.
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Thread: Tell me where this guy is wrong?
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08-09-2005 #1PokerForums God
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Tell me where this guy is wrong?
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08-09-2005 #2(Formerly Steve-O)
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because this guy is an idiot! I won't answer it yet but come on, are you kidding? Is it possible to contradict yourself in writing this bad and not be thrown in jail?
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08-09-2005 #3PokerForums God
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for someone not familiar with stats/prob calcs, this could be a very common mistake.
Don't feel bad guys.
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08-09-2005 #4PokerForums God
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Who cares? 6:1 7:1 its a bad call.
Even if you are 120% to lose and 10% to win, your still 8:1 right?
Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.
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08-09-2005 #5change my title babo
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Rofl
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08-09-2005 #6River Rat
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he seems to be wrong in alot of ways...
e.g. 10% chance is worst than 1-6
plus AA,AK,QQ &KK is not the worst situtation for KJs
if he went up against AQs (same suits), KK, QQ, & QJ ...in which case the only way he can win is by hitting both remaining jacks, or T,9,8,7 suited...about a 100 to 1 shot...
the thing to bear in mind is that 57% of statistics are made up...I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.
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08-09-2005 #7(Formerly Steve-O)
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I think the worst scenario would be KK JJ QQ TT only wins would be miracle straights with 4 outs gone.
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08-09-2005 #8Fish
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Who calls allin with a KJ anyway
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AspireLast edited by Ck1221; 02-19-2011 at 07:05 PM.
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08-09-2005 #9Poker Professional
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Doh!
Originally Posted by Ck1221
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08-09-2005 #10Poker Expert
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lol, seriously though, what's it matter if it's 7 to 1 or 8 to 1 since both 7 and 8 are higher than 4?
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