preflop-id raise it up again and make em put another 1500 in.

flop-id prob check like u did but id raise his 600 bet....does his 600 bet seem small into 1900 pot? id raise him up to 2500/3000.

turn-rather than checking id bet out at prob bout pot size/little over pot size. if i did check and he goes all in....dunno if i can call him.


what would he raise with utg that has u badly beat right now-AA, KK, 99, TT. doubt if hed raise with KT or K9.

his small flop bet and small reraise would have me think one of 2 things-he has smaller pair or he has AA/KK/AK......without seeing him in action up to this point id make him pay to see the turn and bet big if blank comes.

to me, u have showed no real signs of strength yet-unless i got AA, KK, AK im folding if u put in big reraise on flop.


just my 2 cents and if im way off track then please someone tell me.

A few things:

I have no information on this guy, i had just moved to this table a few hands earlier.

Preflop, this may have been a passive play, but with my stack, i wasn't trying to play a big pot here out of position to a UTG raiser that i have no info on. I figured in this situatino it would be best to take a flop and play from there.

On the flop, i was going for a check raise. The original raiser almost always bets out bluff or not, so i figured to max profits i would check raise him. When he minreraised, i was really confused. I have seen people play middle set like this, aces like this, but never a complete bluff. I was thinking about reraising, but then thought that the only thing that would call me would be something that beat me.

So i just call instead. Then came the tough desicion. After he went all in, i was really confused. I either thought it was AK, AA, or 99. Thought for awhile, and then finally i made the wrong descicion...

Anyways, i won't say what i did yet, i want to hear a couple more responses.

you cant raise pf unless you are going to raise to like 2500 and i wouldnt want to do that being OOP with just AK

your raise on the flop was horrible. needed to be a lot more if you are going to raise. a call here wouldnt be so bad and see what he does on the turn. i would have either called or raised to ~2400.

now when he min raises you on the turn i might have re raised him. your stacks were very deep and you would def be able to tell where you are in the hand by what he does.

on the turn a check/fold is fine


you need to give yourself more info on the flop by a bigger raise or just call and it would have made the hand much easier to play

AT what does raising to 1500 pf do?

betting pattern makes it tricky, but possible hands:

22: with UTG raise he maybe hoped to drive more ppl out...but seems very unlikely

99: more likely than 22, but still a little odd...why go all in on turn, if he was beat on the turn he was already beat on the flop, Td couldn't have made much difference

TT: the play (esp. reraise) on flop make this very unlikely, the all in on the turn is possible, as its such an unlikely play that it might be called, but i doubt that TT is his hand...
JJ: even less likely than TT
QQ: ditto

KK: possible, means all 4 kings are out, which seems makes it less probable...plus you'd think he'd reraise more on the flop if he was getting action on trip kings

AA: possible...again you'd think he'd bet more on the flop, and why go all in on the turn, Td isn't much of a worry to AA...a diamonds draw would have folded on the flop, unless someone had AdKd which is 1 in 1326 (if he doesn't have the Ad himself).

club draw: maybe AQc, rereaise on the flop would be a very odd play for a clubs draw...unless he wanted a free card, which doesn't seem to be the case

diamond draw: maybe A9d, betting patterns again make this very unlikely,

QJ: to much raising and reraising for QJ, even QJc...and why go all in on the nuts straight, he'd probably bet for value...

KA: very possible, worried about getting out drawn so he goes all in to end the pot...

KQ: both the suited Kings are accounted for so he can't have a flush draw with his KQ, so he's definately over playing it..the T does give him an inside straight and 4 more outs for a semi bluff, but doubt he would have min reraised with this hand on the flop.

KJ: ditto

KT: possible, but unlikely for the same reasons as KQ...his betting is backwards for this hand, he should have raised less than all in the to atleast to get some money, KT is a pretty safe hand on that flop...

K9: i suspect he might have K9, probably suited...certainly a playable hand, explains the betting pattern a little (but nothing i can think of explains it fully)...the ten on the turn maybe worries him that someone else might make a better kings up on the river, and with two flush draws and a straight draw posible he decides to take down the put there

27o: if its a bluff its a very odd one, but its so odd and confusing it might just work...but i suspect that he wouldn't risk his whole stack on a bluff when you've clearly shown strenght b4 and on the flop, plus he bets into two ppl on the flop with a min bet...odd betting for a bluff, maybe he just getting bored or frustrated, i wouldn't be too supraised if he trying to steal with A9...but its a silly play if he is, maybe he thought you were showing weakness by checking the turn...


its hard to put him on a hand...but i suspect its Kx (most likely KA or K9),

i'm not sure if i'd call, that would depend on outside factors as well (i.e. i'm nearly in the money, whether i think i'll get a better i opportunity later)...

but as its your money, i call.