It was the third hand of 3-table SNG on PS. I'm on the button with . Everyone had limped into the hand when it got to me, and with such good odds, I limped, too. The SB folded, and the BB called.

The flop came down . All checks to a player in MP, who led out with 120 into the pot of 170. Several players folded to the CO, who just called.

Having flopped a straight, I decided to test whether they actually had a hand. So, I reraised to 500. I thought it was enough to test if either had a flush (in which case, I figured they would come over the top of me), or see if they were drawing behind my straight. If either had reraised, I would have folded on the flop. However, the MP called, and the CO folded.

The turn was the . MP now moved all in. I called, feeling relatively confident that he did not have the flush, but willing to gamble in any event. He flipped over for a full house. So I went out in a blaze on the 3d hand.

Now, who do you think was crazier? Me, for calling his all in, or him for calling me on the flop with 4 outs at best, if he feels that I don't have the flush or the straight?

Yeah I'm gonna go with marm..I don't agree with either of your guys plays, the other guy just got lucky.

Idk I'd have to know how much more was his all-in bet then what was put in already?? If not that much then I could see why you would call. If it was like say the amount of the pot already then I'd say fold he's got the flush or he hit a boat... and considering the board had paired... boat was possible. with 2 cards to come and I have 2 pair I'll at least see the turn cuz u never know!

I hate calling just because if you're wrong you have no outs.

So he calls your reraise, which should tell you right there your hand is in trouble. But then the board pairs and he goes all-in. So what does he possibly have that he will go all-in against your reraise when the board pairs? This screams boat.
I guess maybe he could have the king-little flush which also has you beat anyway.

The only thing you beat here is if he is an idiot playing with just the k of clubs and is semibluffing. But if he was going to do that you think he would do it on the flop. When I get into a situation here I sometimes like to think "what can I beat here" - the answer is you beat nothing here but a bluff and very few people are stupid enough to go all-in against a reraiser with THAT board on a bluff!

So no offense (and I'm sure you knew you would crucified when you posted this) but yours was by far crazier. This seems to be a very straightforward fold.

He could easily have had k10 with the king of clubs..

Originally Posted by mxp2004

The turn was the . MP now moved all in. I called, feeling relatively confident that he did not have the flush, ?

Look, I'm not trying to be too hard on you here but I find this line to be funny. Of course he didn't have the flush - he might have been a little worried about going allin against the flop reraiser when the board pairs and he has the nut flush (i.e. all the "good cards").
If he has the flush. from his perspective, what are you going to call him with? Only hands that beat his flush. So it is stupid for him to go all in with a flush here.
I'm surprised with his boat he didn't checkraise you all in here.

Growlers i think you are giving people to much respect in this game. What is this, a $5 three table on PS. I wouldn't be suprised if he showed a7 with the 7 of clubs.

Originally Posted by helmuthpoker201

He could easily have had k10 with the king of clubs..

Let's put ourselves in his shoes. A semibluff requires that you have outs if you are called. With a preflop reraise on that board and us having the nut flush card, you have to assume opponent has two pair or a set of A Q 10 most of the time. So the board pair just made him quads or a boat, leaving you no outs even if a fourth club hits the river.

Sure he could easily have K10 with the king of clubs, but a good player wouldn't have that. Without a specific read, I think a semibluff here is really bad.

Am I off base here with my thinking?