I was recently playing online in a $.5-$1 nl hold'em game and was dealt Ak of hearts. Someone raise from the middle position to $3 and I reraised to $8. The person right after me called. He was a weak player and didnt think he really had much. The original raiser folded. There was about $20 in the pot. The flop came with no help. Something like 6-9-4 with ne heart. I raised $10, hoping he had something like AK, AQ or a low pair. But he called. the turn brought the J of hearts. Still thinking he was weak, and having a lot of outs (flush draw and two overcards), I raised all-in with my last $30. He called and showed 3-3!?!?! He only had a pair of 3's! He called the reraise preflop, he called a raise with 3 overcards, then called an all-in with a Jack and a flush draw on the board. The best he could been doing is if he nis up against a pure bluff. Even then, I'm going to win 35% of the time. Of course I didnt hit any of my outs, and he took a huge pot. I'm just confused why he would put in all his money with that. I reraised preflop which easily could mean I had a bigger pair. Even if he put me on a bluff, it seems to me that 3-3 is too vulnerable to just call. You will get outdrawn a lot of the time. Did I do something wrong, or was he just stupid?

You didn't really do anything wrong, even a weak player could put you on AK at that point. What he was baiscally doing was commiting all of his money to the pot preflop and assuming it was a race. If he's even halfway decent he could tell you didn't want a call, not really too bad a play by either party.

yea basically you said it. he is a weak player and he made the right move. he either had an a/k read on you or he just got super lucky. but as you know and as i've been told a million times, normally you will win the pots off of players like this.

What if he would have been holding pocket 9's?
I think one should be prepared to lose unless your holding the nuts.

Originally Posted by DanDan65

What if he would have been holding pocket 9's?
I think one should be prepared to lose unless your holding the nuts.

Especially Ace high.

Looks to me like you were overly aggressive. I am no cash player though.

Even your "lot" of outs only amounted to 15 at best ot of 46 unseen cards, so if called you will lose 2/3 of the time at BEST.

Bluff loose players less, and that is all you were doing was bluffing.

I would say he either put you on something like AQ or AK (maybe even KQ) by your re-raise PF and thought his small pair was still good (which admittedly is a risky play unless he's sure, considering the board is all overcards and you could have had something like 10-10 or maybe even JJ after your all-in on the turn.

Originally Posted by SuckOutKing

What he was baiscally doing was commiting all of his money to the pot preflop and assuming it was a race.

No, if he was assuming it was a race, he should have gone all in. The guy with the 3s was just a crappy player who got lucky and won. To prove my point lets look at the hand from the guy with the 3s point of view:

Before the flop he someone raises to 3 and then another person (who he doesn't know but has AK suited) raises 5 more. Now you have to think that one of these guys has you beat. He should have folded before the flop with a raise and a re-raise cause at best he has a race and 33% chace of winning ASSUMING no one has an overpair. Bad play before the flop with the 3s, re-raise all in or fold. This guy was just calling and hoping that he hit a set, and got lucky and helped scare one guy before the flop into folding.

The flop is all low rainbow cards. The guy with the 3s didn't hit his set tho, and the person bets 10 into him. You can assume that this guy has an over pair or high cards still. If he just has an over pair, you are good. But if he has high cards you are doomed. Someone bets 10 into you, so if you think he has an over pair you fold, if you think he has high cards you should go all in. If you dont know, re-raise to get more information. But he called and gave the guy with the high cards a chance to catch his card. Bad play on the flop.

Turn is a J. This card is even more dangerous, cause your opponent could have easily raised on the flop with A J. You still have the 3s, and your opponent goes all in. At this point the only thing you can beat is a bluff. Fortunatly it was a bluff and you won the hand.

You can say "he put the guy on high cards" all day. But if he actually put his opponent on high cards, he would have raised trying to keep his opponent from catching a high card. If he went all in on the flop, the AK hand probably would have folded (I hope so atleast). If he had gone all in PF, the AK would have called and you would have a race. Both have favorable odds for the 3s. But what he did instead was CALL all his chips on the turn hoping that his opponent only had overcards. If he had an over pair, you are screwed.

The player was just fishing for a 3, its as simple as that.