10s in .25/.5 NL on Paradise

**itsMrHankey2u** · 08-02-2005

Paradise is bieng ridiculous not sending hand histories on time and then not sending the number i request so I couldn't find the exact hand, but I can give you the general idea.

I'm dealt 10s in MP in a full table. Nobody or 1 limper so far and I make it 2 to go. I get 2 callers behind me.
Flop is 973 rainbow.
I bet out 4 in a 7 dollar pot. (Pot = 11)
I get one caller. (Pot = 16)
Turn is a 3 that makes 2 diamonds on the board.
I bet 10 and he raises to 20 and I call. (Pot = 56)
River is a 2(non diamond).
I check and he pushes for 10 more and I call.

Going through my thought process:
Preflop I think it was a standard raise and got pretty desirable results other than position.
The flop was beautiful, over pair, rainbow and pretty spread. I bet and get a call. Turn I figure I shouldn't bet too much but don't want him drawing to a flush, overs, or 2 pair for nothing. His reraise thru me off though. Did he have top pair and think hes slow playing it a bit? Flush draw semi-bluff and didn't believe I have anything. Right here I decided I would post this no matter the result--I just wasn't comfortable.
The river was harmless and the pot was so big I had to call.

I'll post results after a bit of discussion.

**Jack King off** · 08-02-2005

pf is close. im not sure if im limping or raising here. probably leaning toward limping behind and raise if a bit later position

bet more on the flop 5-6.

turn bet is fine. im probably folding to the min raise cuz it looks like AA. since you called the 10 on the turn you pretty much have to call the river.

you got in a really big pot with TT out of position. if you limped pf it changes the whole hand and makes it easier to play

**ChieF** · 08-02-2005

My guess is he has 5/6.

**Beavis68** · 08-02-2005

Originally Posted by Jack King off

pf is close. im not sure if im limping or raising here. probably leaning toward limping behind and raise if a bit later position

bet more on the flop 5-6.

turn bet is fine. im probably folding to the min raise cuz it looks like AA. since you called the 10 on the turn you pretty much have to call the river.

you got in a really big pot with TT out of position. if you limped pf it changes the whole hand and makes it easier to play

Jo, do you just play TT for set value in EP?

**Ck1221** · 08-02-2005

yeah 5d6d maybe? Or maybe he has a3? Another reasopn you probably shouldve bet more on the flop
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**Jack King off** · 08-02-2005

depends on the game.

at party 5/1 i limped with it and was just looking for a set really

at stars 1/2 im raising with 99 and sometimes 88 and just take it down on the flop and mix it up a bit

i dno how paradise plays but its safer and a whole lot easier hand to play if you limp pf.

1 its good for sets and 2 if the flop comes 9 high in a limped pot its a MUCH better spot than if it was raised. they wont put you on TT and you will get paid by a lot of hands. OTOH, if you raised pf you knock out those hands that will pay you and only get called by better.

**Ck1221** · 08-02-2005

But wont you also get hands like 97 and 33 in an unraised pot? You'd have to play it with a lot more caution
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**Trons** · 08-02-2005

Personally, I'm putting him on like Ad Jd or Ad 10d...bascially two over cards that see the diamond draw. I guess it's possible he's sitting on A3 but without having played with him for a while, not sure what kind of hands he's playing a PF raise with. I would feel the bet on the flop after you checked was made because he thought he could get the pot there without a showdown or he put you on Ax and you didn't make your hand.

I guess after thinking about it, he could have a PP higher then yours. JJ or QQ. If so, that sucks. That was tough hand to play regardless.

**itsMrHankey2u** · 08-04-2005

He ended up having K3s. It seems like the majority put him on similar hands and I didn't make a horrible play. I think if he had any more at the table I probably toss it on the turn.

**Jack King off** · 08-04-2005

thats why you need to bet more on the flop when you have the best hand. also you need to know when you are beat and fold on the turn

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