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  1. #1
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    Default Problem with bad beats in heads up.

    Hi-

    Okay so i often play with my brother for about $5 dollars, we just play for fun but we lay down the 5 cuz its competition. ( fives alot when ur a kid and only make 7.50 an hour). Okay so i have been recieving horrible beats... consistantly lately.
    The situation is that he is a very aggresive player and i play rather conservativly (but can bluff too). Okay so we usually play heads up.
    I have lost the past couple times on some pretty bad beats, but he usally also just dominates the betting of the entire thing.
    Typical betting structure: ( We each start with 50 chips)
    Me: 2
    Him: 2 raise 4 (lets say i call) (most of the time recently i dont call unless i have a statistically good hand)(or i will bluff n re raise him but most of the time he will call and then throw a bluff back at me or throw out a ligit bet cuz he hits on flop) (so basically normally here i fold)
    Me: Check
    Him: Raise 6 (lets say i call) (i usually never bluff here)
    Me: Check (i might bluff here if i have just called above)
    Him: raise 10 (yep thats a fold! or ??????????????)

    as you can see this can get really expensive to play in hands with him.
    Here are two games we just played today, this has been happening alot

    Me (30 Chips): All- in A o Hearts 10 o Diamonds
    Him (70 Chips) Call Q o Hearts 7 o clubs
    He wins hit a Q on river i hit nothing (not that it matters taht it was on the river i just remeber cuz it was suspensful)

    Next Game

    Simillar situation

    Me: (45 chips) All-In Q o Hearts J o Clubs
    Him: (55 chips) Call 4 o hearts 3 o spades

    He hits a 3

    (both time i was a head pre flop 65% to 35%)

    It is just insane to me that this is happening so much, so what i would like to be able to do is have some stratagey that lets me not play wrecklesly while not having to put all my money in pre flop. Both of the above hands happend after about an hour of play n switching leads n stuff.

    He is not a bad player or anything he has about a 700 dollar profit from tournys w/ freinds
    and im donig about the same ( about a hundered worse)

    Its just that i often encounter him in heads up and this is getting to be a huge problem, he always wins were he gets lucky on the last hand, but i let him get lucky because he bluffs me out of somany blinds and he is able to put me all in instead of me him. I just need some help penetrating his steady structed bets and unrelenting raises ( he is a crazy mofo he will fire 4 times at pots n hell have 7 2 off suit) . I can read him alot of the time but its pretty hard with the structure he does. Thanks for any help.

    Okay so thats basically the situation i had a bigger write up before but it took me so long to write that i lost it when i tried to post it. Thanks for any help n plz reply (even if you think i should just stop playing with him ; ) }

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    The problem is that you're letting him win enough small pots for him to justify a 1:2 preflop all in because with a 70:30 advantage, even if he loses he's just basically back to even. From your descriptions, he's playing LAA and you're playing LPP. He will always have the advantage if you continue to play the way you do.

    You can try playing your image and playing back on the turn / river or moving in with PPs preflop since he seems so willing to call on the 2:1 you can just up your odds a bit.

  3. #3
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    yeah tnks for the advice, i was looking for mabye some examples of how often i should bluff because i have been just dealing my self hands lately and almost always no one has a decent hand exept for every 10th or 15th hand.

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    River Rat goose58's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.twoplustwo.com
    Your sample size is too small.

    If he calls your allins with any2 cards, wait until aces and bust him. Otherwise, just learn to play post flop and push your good hands(any pair) more often.

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    What kind of hands do you play when you are heads up tourney style?? It is hard to determine what you might be doing wrong without this info.

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