5 tabling fuck reads anyway. guess it was no good?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 ($187.50)
CO ($301.20)
Button ($176)
SB ($180)
BB ($115.40)
UTG ($143.50)
UTG+1 ($39.45)
Hero ($277.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 5 folds, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($17) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12.

Turn: ($41) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG raises to $48, Hero calls $26.

River: ($137) (2 players)
UTG bets $44, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $181

edit: actually converting it helps lol

Something says fold the turn. I dunno though.

i guess i butchered the hand. i thought the call was a no brainer on the turn. guess not

and a check on the turn woulda been better and call a 1/2 pot bet on river

i think i was def beat on river though by how i played it. i prob dont even get paid if a A or 9 hits

i guess i fucked this up

Originally Posted by bonchkid

Something says fold the turn. I dunno though.

I don't think you should fold on turn I think you call. I doubt the 7 on the river helped him but if its an A or a 9 you have a straight, also with that much already in the pot you have to call, so you should at least see the last card. Tough fold but i think it was the right thing

I dunno, im feeling antagonistic tonight.

Push the turn, I think you're ahead, and if not, you got outs, lots of them.

To me, the only hand that were behind to that makes sense is QJ. In my mind Im seeing K's (2 outs) Aces (4 outs), 9's (4 outs) 7's (3 outs), 4's (3 outs) , 16 outs, and plus the chance you are already ahead, I push.

bad call, bad laydown, KQ and such are too big of chances to lay this down. Psuh and end it now.

Originally Posted by bonchkid

Something says fold the turn. I dunno though.

Nah... he's got 4:1 with a straight draw and an overpair... hang in there.

It really depends on your table image, but I'm potting the flop because it is so draw heavy. Betting half pot on the turn if a blank falls.


The turn call is good but unless you improve I'm folding river.

Similar to the other hand that I responded to [Shadypac's tens hand], this is a read dependent, but more than the other.

I. This is a cash game.
I say fold the turn. You're looking to be the aggressor in spots like this, not the caller. I like to minimize my losses with top pair and play each spot individually. With no reads on my table, I'll raise bigger PF, but fold a min. raise on the flop.

II. What would he call on the flop and min. raise on the turn?
I have to say AQ and KQ are valid possibilities, but I'd think QT, QJ, TT, 77, and JJ are good possibilities. I'm not averse to calling the turn completely to the possibility that he checks the river, making your investment smaller, but his raise is a call for action.

Why does he want action? I think you're beat in most cases.