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    Poker Hustler eclinchy's Avatar
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    Default I can't lay down aces...

    I don't think I've ever folded AA in a limit ring game... am I being too loose, or is it okay to pay people off when you think they've drawn out on you?

    Here's an example hand. Let me know if I should be playing differently.

    1/2 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Fri Jul 22 22:36:55 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36507 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Duane158 ( $43.22)
    Seat 2: weswhitt ( $29.63)
    Seat 3: ChristyB123 ( $63.83)
    Seat 4: rograndom ( $37.18)
    Seat 5: kkwwcctt ( $71)
    Seat 6: nogaf ( $97.25)
    Seat 7: OhioDude ( $66)
    Seat 8: EvanWithAnS ( $38.50)
    Seat 9: ankern1 ( $144.25)
    Seat 10: greg1661 ( $56)
    OhioDude posts small blind (0.50)
    EvanWithAnS posts big blind (1)
    rograndom posts big blind (1)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to EvanWithAnS [ , ]
    greg1661 raises (2) to 2
    Duane158 folds.
    weswhitt calls (2)
    ChristyB123 folds.
    rograndom folds.
    kkwwcctt calls (2)
    nogaf folds.
    OhioDude folds.
    EvanWithAnS raises (2) to 3
    greg1661 calls (1)
    weswhitt calls (1)
    kkwwcctt calls (1)
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ , , ]
    EvanWithAnS bets (1)
    greg1661 raises (2) to 2
    weswhitt calls (2)
    kkwwcctt raises (3) to 3
    EvanWithAnS raises (3) to 4
    greg1661 calls (2)
    weswhitt calls (2)
    kkwwcctt calls (1)
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ ]
    EvanWithAnS checks.
    greg1661 bets (2)
    weswhitt folds.
    kkwwcctt raises (4) to 4
    EvanWithAnS calls (4)
    greg1661 calls (2)
    ** Dealing River ** : [ ]
    EvanWithAnS checks.
    greg1661 checks.
    kkwwcctt bets (2)
    EvanWithAnS calls (2)
    greg1661 calls (2)
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $46.50 | Rake: $1
    Board: [ ]
    Duane158 balance $43.22, didn't bet (folded)
    weswhitt balance $22.63, lost $7 (folded)
    ChristyB123 balance $63.83, didn't bet (folded)
    rograndom balance $36.18, lost $1 (folded)
    kkwwcctt balance $58, lost $13 [ ] [ a pair of sixes -- ,,,, ]
    nogaf balance $97.25, didn't bet (folded)
    OhioDude balance $65.50, lost $0.50 (folded)
    EvanWithAnS balance $25.50, lost $13 [ ] [ a pair of aces -- , ,,, ]
    ankern1 balance $144.25, sits out
    greg1661 balance $89.50, bet $13, collected $46.50, net +$33.50 [ ] [ three of a kind, eights -- ,,,, ]
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    I have folded aces before, but it usually takes some proof.

    Not sure about this spot.

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    easy fold on river, you cant beat anything... theres a 4-straight and 3 clubs out there... every possible draw hit, if the bettor doesnt have you beat the other guy does
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    It's correct to bet the flop, but I am certainly not capping. I hate having to call two cold here as it looks like you are behind. However, if you call the flop, you have to fold the turn unimproved. I don't like your turn call. And on the river, there is no way you can be ahead.

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    If it were me, I would've made a stronger PF bet and a stronger post flop bet. If I have a high poket pair, I'm loathe to make it worth people's while to try to draw (and hit) against me. But....I've been suckin' lately, so maybe don't listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrEleganza
    If it were me, I would've made a stronger PF bet and a stronger post flop bet.
    It's limit.

    I obviously didn't think I was ahead on the river, but getting better than 22:1 on my money, when there's a slight chance my opponents have top pair or a smaller pocket pair, it didn't look like a fold to me. Look how HUGE that pot was.
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    AHEM... its LIMIT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor009
    AHEM... its LIMIT
    Sorry...sorry...sorry...

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    very expensive mistake it can be to confuse the two
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    It is much less obvious here what you are up against.

    From the flop action, you could very well be up against another high pair that makes it harder to laydown.

    And if you are going to lay it down, the turn is the place to do it, not the river as you noted getting 22:1.

    The one time I folded aces, I was the only one betting or raising until the 3 spade hit, then it was bet and raised back to me. I was actually up against two flushes.

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