PokerStars Game #2167393993: Tournament #10399806, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII
(200/400) - 2005/07/23 - 09:22:42 (ET)
Table '10399806 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: shadypac84 (4995 in chips)
Seat 4: robina1220 (2740 in chips)
Seat 8: doug4473 (5765 in chips)
shadypac84: posts the ante 25
robina1220: posts the ante 25
doug4473: posts the ante 25
shadypac84: posts small blind 200
robina1220: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shadypac84 [Qs Qh]
doug4473: raises 400 to 800
shadypac84: raises 400 to 1200
robina1220: folds
doug4473: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [6h Ks 8d]
shadypac84: bets 1200
doug4473: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [6h Ks 8d] [5h]
shadypac84: bets 1200
doug4473: raises 2140 to 3340 and is all-in
shadypac84: calls 1370 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6h Ks 8d 5h] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shadypac84: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens)
doug4473: shows [7d Jd] (a straight, Four to Eight)
robina1220 said, "wow"
doug4473 collected 10415 from pot
shadypac84 [observer] said, "wow..."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10415 | Rake 0
Board [6h Ks 8d 5h 4h]
Seat 1: shadypac84 (small blind) showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: robina1220 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: doug4473 (button) showed [7d Jd] and won (10415) with a straight, Four
to Eight


Ok i figure someone may say something about the girly minraise PF but i figured 3 handed i dont mind playing my Q's heads up just wanted to isolate the one player.

K on the flop wasnt a big worry once again 3 handed so i bet into it about half the pot....and get called. Turn is nothing scary and im kinda conserned with the call if he has a K but checking leaves me nowhere except to be bluffed at or bet at and just makes my decisions more difficult.

I figure i should have probably pushed my chips in on the turn but betting 1200 again leaves me commited anywayz and i guess im stupid for expecting some people to know that...because after the hand he says..." I thought i would bluff at it"

And the river...well enough said.

I just am not happy with my play when tables get 3-5 handed so thats why im posting...suggestions not in relation to the hand also welcome.

no
fucking
min
raising

either go like 2k pf and push flop or just push pf. im not sure about the stacks exactly dno if i would just push or raise it, but im def going to be all in by the flop with a lot more money in pf

you went 1600 pf and 1200 on the flop??? im prob pushing there.

also on the turn you need to open push

you played this hand very bad both pf and post flop. you asked for it. you gave him a great price on every street and he hit. play it much faster next time

Originally Posted by Jack King off

no


you played this hand very bad both pf and post flop. you asked for it. you gave him a great price on every street and he hit. play it much faster next time

great price?? do you know the odds of hitting runners for a straight the pot never offered those kind of odds

ok he didnt have odds on the flop but had them for sure pf and turn. you looked very weak on flop and turn so he thought there was folding equity and even if you call he still has outs. you shouldnt be faced with any of this though because it should have been shoved if not pf def by the flop

with your flop bet im probably not folding there either. i either push the flop or do a delayed bluff or call and see what comes off on the turn.

anyway this shouldnt have anything to do with if he had odds or not or how he played the hand. you would never have been in that spot if you played it right. just play it faster next time especially that late in a s/g.