My First MTT. hand i went out. any thoughts

**surftheiop** · 07-18-2005

money was 7 deep i was ranked 9 of 12 and shortstacked
PokerStars Game #2130903369: Tournament #10207906, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/07/18 - 12:32:57 (ET)
Table '10207906 2' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hightshoe (10505 in chips)
Seat 3: Grudzi13 (10165 in chips)
Seat 5: surftheiop (2135 in chips)
Seat 7: marymieres (18785 in chips)
Seat 9: badbeetbilly (2340 in chips)
marymieres: posts small blind 100
badbeetbilly: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to surftheiop [Jd Qh]hightshoe: calls 200
Grudzi13: folds
surftheiop: calls 200
marymieres: calls 100
badbeetbilly: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 8d Jh]
marymieres: checks
badbeetbilly: bets 800
hightshoe: folds
hightshoe is sitting out
surftheiop: calls 800
marymieres: calls 800
*** TURN *** [5c 8d Jh] [9h]
marymieres: checks
badbeetbilly: bets 1340 and is all-in
surftheiop: calls 1135 and is all-in
marymieres: folds
*** RIVER *** [5c 8d Jh 9h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
badbeetbilly: shows [8h 5s] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
surftheiop: shows [Jd Qh] (a pair of Jacks)
badbeetbilly collected 5470 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5470 | Rake 0
Board [5c 8d Jh 9h 4d]
Seat 1: hightshoe folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Grudzi13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: surftheiop (button) showed [Jd Qh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 7: marymieres (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: badbeetbilly (big blind) showed [8h 5s] and won (5470) with two pair, Eights and Fives

any thoughts i have never played tournament so i not sure if this was a really bad/decent/ or even good call

**puddlejumper** · 07-18-2005

Six-handed with about 10x BB, I'm thinking of moving all-in pre-flop, you are in a push or fold situation. No one raised before you and you have position on the button, so there's a good chance that you have the best hand at this point. You can't wait around for a monster when you are getting SS. By just calling you let the BB hit his miracle flop, if you push and no-one calls, you still pick up the blinds to keep you alive for another round.

**Beavis68** · 07-18-2005

Definitely raise PF.

What kind of MTT was this to be 5 handed? 3 table SnG? stacks seem small for that.

**Shadypac** · 07-18-2005

we call that the BB special. You cant really put him on anything because you didnt raise so you have NO information. Its ok to limp as well but when you limp into a hand you have to keep it in the back of your mind that if you dont catch something good and someone is betting aggresively and you have no reads then you should dump the hand. When i first read this i said to myself probably flopped 2 pair.

**surftheiop** · 07-18-2005

it was one of the pokerstars 1$ 45 man SnG. And now that i think about it i definately should have raised pre flop. Thanks for the advice. what would have been a good raise? a all in or a few times the blind ?

**Beavis68** · 07-18-2005

I would go ahead and push.

I hate this 45-man SnGs, I can never tell where people are in the hands, they call with anything KK, 85s, doesn't matter.

Last one I played, AK ran into both AA and KK.

**Jack King off** · 07-18-2005

raise or fold pf. calling is out of the question. if you raised to 600 and jxx hit then im pushing the flop with ~1500

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