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Thread: Push or Fold

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    Default Push or Fold

    This is relatively early in an MTT - still a ways from the money with a decent stack:

    Hand #696954242 at Fri940pmA007 (No Limit tournament Hold'em) 7/8/2005 22:22
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    Started at 08/Jul/05 22:22:04
    namma is at seat 0 with 4370.
    aasaas9 is at seat 1 with 720.
    AUSMIC is at seat 2 with 1135.
    smb0423 is at seat 3 with 3885.
    SWTPAPPA65 is at seat 4 with 3930.
    My1973tr7 is at seat 5 with 1830.
    littlediddy is at seat 6 with 3460.
    DumbWalrus is at seat 7 with 1115.
    Girevik is at seat 8 with 7100.
    kuchjax is at seat 9 with 8065.
    The button is moved to seat 4.
    The button is at seat 4.

    My1973tr7 posts the small blind of 150.
    littlediddy posts the big blind of 300.
    namma, at seat 0, is in this hand.
    aasaas9, at seat 1, is in this hand.
    AUSMIC, at seat 2, is in this hand.
    smb0423, at seat 3, is in this hand.
    SWTPAPPA65, at seat 4, is in this hand.
    My1973tr7, at seat 5, is in this hand.
    littlediddy, at seat 6, is in this hand.
    DumbWalrus, at seat 7, is in this hand.
    Girevik, at seat 8, is in this hand.
    kuchjax, at seat 9, is in this hand.

    My1973tr7 is dealt:
    littlediddy is dealt:
    DumbWalrus is dealt:
    Girevik is dealt: ,
    kuchjax is dealt:
    namma is dealt:
    aasaas9 is dealt:
    AUSMIC is dealt:
    smb0423 is dealt:
    SWTPAPPA65 is dealt:


    Preflop:
    DumbWalrus goes allin for 1115.
    Girevik .......


    I'd love to get heads up with this guy - he's short stacked and could have about anything - but my position sucks. Should I have pushed and hoped that scares away any callers or played it safe and waited for a better opportunity.
    I'm CDO. It's like OCD, but everying is in order just like it should be.

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    If Girevik was first to act, i'd fold...he's probably got better than 99, or atleast 2 over cards...and if he hasn't, someone else probably has...not worth the risk i'd say...
    I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? for he wants to perish.

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    very hard to follow. if you can plz bold/color/make larger your stack and the blinds

    i dont see anything wrong with calling here. its basically a standard raise, but he is all in. a push is fine too.

    you have utg beat here like 80% of the time. hes utg and the blinds will crush him next 2 hands. im not folding here. fuck position and push

    if you push are they folding TT? if you call and they push are you folding? other biggest is only 4200 so you are still fine if you get all in with him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Bloodclot
    If Girevik was first to act, i'd fold...he's probably got better than 99, or atleast 2 over cards...and if he hasn't, someone else probably has...not worth the risk i'd say...
    you want to get into race situations when you're a big stack

    i push here, worst situation is one of the bigger stacks call and then you have to yell "suckout" at the computer...

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    This is the turbo, the guy has less than 4 bb blinds.

    You have two choices, raise to about 2500, or just push to isolate. (notice that "fold" isn't a choice?)

    Kuchjax is the only one that has you covered, and you will have to call anyone elses reraise, so just go all-in.

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    I fold this. Even though he probably doesn't have a premium hand like AK, he's likely to be in a race with you with JTs or such. At best, you end up heads up as a 52% favorite. At worst, somebody behind you has a better hand, and they'll put you all in or call your all in.

    It's too early in the tournament to care about knocking other people out. You just want to maximize your own stack. Calling or raising is less than at 50/50 shot, so it's a clear fold in early position.

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    If this where a standard tournament I would agree, but this is a turbo.

    Your stack isn't that big, withing 10min or so you will be down to 10BBs. This is a good gamble.

    It doesn't matter if you are a coin flip because you are on the good side of it, and there is some dead money in the pot.

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    Push!!!
    or raise big

    He can have suited connetc 1 over card or anything else. Plus you have 1.4:1 for your money.

    Even if he have 2 over or a bigger PP, it wourts it IMO.

    KJ

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    DumbWalrus is very good player actually and is ranked/was ranked on pocketfives.com top 70 internet tournament players

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    Hmmm...I'd push and narrow the field...prolly going in with Ax
    Quote Originally Posted by poker player 100 View Post
    However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.

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