Welcome to PokerForums.org

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13
  1. #1
    Chaser
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    247

    Default Play so good, and then make a dumb*** mistake

    PokerStars Game #2062603088: Tournament #9842810, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2005/07/09 - 00:07:02 (ET)
    Table '9842810 1' Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: jrb50 (15405 in chips)
    Seat 4: BBQ CHIPS (2115 in chips)
    Seat 5: tontawh (7709 in chips)
    Seat 6: ChiderHider (18944 in chips)
    Seat 8: joe32543 (11302 in chips)
    Seat 9: mnr4444 (12025 in chips)
    jrb50: posts the ante 50
    BBQ CHIPS: posts the ante 50
    tontawh: posts the ante 50
    ChiderHider: posts the ante 50
    joe32543: posts the ante 50
    mnr4444: posts the ante 50
    jrb50: posts small blind 300
    BBQ CHIPS: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to joe32543 [Kc Ah]
    tontawh: folds
    ChiderHider: folds
    joe32543: raises 1200 to 1800
    mnr4444: folds
    jrb50: calls 1500
    BBQ CHIPS: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ad 4s 3d]
    jrb50: bets 600
    joe32543: raises 8852 to 9452 and is all-in
    jrb50: calls 8852
    *** TURN *** [Ad 4s 3d] [Qc]
    *** RIVER *** [Ad 4s 3d Qc] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jrb50: shows [4d Kd] (a flush, Ace high)
    joe32543: shows [Kc Ah] (a pair of Aces)
    jrb50 collected 23404 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 23404 | Rake 0
    Board [Ad 4s 3d Qc Jd]
    Seat 1: jrb50 (small blind) showed [4d Kd] and won (23404) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 4: BBQ CHIPS (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: tontawh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: ChiderHider folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: joe32543 showed [Kc Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 9: mnr4444 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    I don't even know why I pushed here. I thought he was bluffing, or had a weak ace. Either way though, I play hard throughout the tournament, avoided coin-flip situations and then in one hand, with no chip stack problems, throw it all away. I have no doubt if I had played this hand smart, and survived, I could have finished in 3rd easily.

    So, how should I have played this? Raise his bet 3-4k? Called, and then push on the turn if a blank fell?

  2. #2
    PokerForums God
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    8,204

    Default

    you played fine.

    You could have bet a little less, but you are tied to the pot.

    Nice hand bad result.

  3. #3
    River Rat
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    356

    Default

    I agree, you played it right but once that guy called your raise pre flop for some unknown reason then he was on a semi bluff and took a chance after you raised him. It appears he had approx. a 45% chance of making better than your hand if you didn't improve but the kicker is he called your raise pre flop. Don't be sad, the better players will get drawn out more often than weaker ones since the better players are usually ahead.

  4. #4
    River Rat
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    356

    Default

    Opps, missed the 3 on the flop so around 4% for a tie with the straight.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    208

    Default

    IDK, it seems to me when i have 10-20 bb's it is worth it just to go all in and pick up the pot with good hands such as this.

    Otherwise I feel no problem with your all in on the flop, after all you were ahead and he CAUGHT.

  6. #6
    Stu Ungar KINGJACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Montréal
    Posts
    2,398

    Default

    Well... If this is a bad paly, I should be an horrible poker player!!!!
    He made an awfull call on this one...

    However, I may have made a smaller raise (pot size) to prevent you to be crack by 33 or 44. Those hand sounds to be possible ones in this situation.

    Any flush draw was supposed to fold here. Even with a pair! So if he call or raise the Pot size bet, you are supposed to know your busted. But any way, this guy was a jerk and you cant do anything for it!!!

    KJ

  7. #7
    Mike McDermott Av8tor009's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Southington, CT
    Posts
    3,334

    Default

    the caller needs to be lined up against a wall and shot for calling 8k with a pair of 4's even with the flush draw, even calling the PF raise was idiotic of him
    Lead Columnist, BluffAway Online Poker Magazine


    Online Tournament Wins: 11

  8. #8
    PokerForums God
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    8,204

    Default

    He was getting plenty of odds post flop to call with 11 outs twice, and it is usually 14 outs but this time he was against AK and not AQ AJ etc.

    The preflop call was terrible though.

  9. #9
    change my title babo bonchkid's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    6,953

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor009
    the caller needs to be lined up against a wall and shot for calling 8k with a pair of 4's even with the flush draw, even calling the PF raise was idiotic of him
    Actaully shake his hand and say nice play. Buy him a drink. Get invited to his home game. It works a lot better.

    Anyways, if he turned his cards over, you made the best possible play.
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

  10. #10
    Mike McDermott Av8tor009's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Southington, CT
    Posts
    3,334

    Default

    in a cash game you thank him, get his phone number and shit.... in a tournament you beat him up and steal his wallet...
    Lead Columnist, BluffAway Online Poker Magazine


    Online Tournament Wins: 11

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •