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07-08-2005, 03:26 PM
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Why do I have to bet aggressive?
This might belong in the newbie section cuz I'm new.
Why do I have to bet aggressive? I've seen what happens to people who play that way. They do good for a little while then burn out and go belly up. I don't wanna play that way. Is there an alternate approach? All the newbie stuff I've been reading wants me to bet large amounts.
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07-08-2005, 03:33 PM
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Stu Ungar
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theres a saying ive said at least 5 times on this forum before...
"it is better to be the bettor"
if you have a hand (or even if you dont) it is important to put the pressure on your opponents. THEY should be the ones making tough decisions, not you. what the people who burn out do is over-do their aggression and dont know when to give up on a hand.
any hand you are in should be bet aggressively... but always be prepared to go into a defensive shell at the slightest sign of strength of your opponent... dont continue to throw away ur money in that case, just give the hand up and check/call good hands and check/fold bad or mediocre ones.. hope this helps
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07-08-2005, 03:55 PM
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there is a difference between smart agression, and blind agression.
Your bets should generally be for value, and with the knoweldge that in large pots, it is usually more profitable to win the pot now, then to get called by a draw. So you bet enough to make it unprofitable for them to call.
This doesnt mean betting the pot into 5 people with AK on a flop of 25T.
Some situations it is better to sit back and let someone else drive, but most of the time playing straight forwardly and betting your hands for value is the best course.
Last edited by Beavis68; 07-08-2005 at 03:57 PM.
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07-08-2005, 03:58 PM
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Stu Ungar
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im not saying go allin with T2o into AA and KK preflop (sigh) but taking stabs at pots is fine, just dont go overboard... value bet your good hands, dont slowplay in low limit games without the abolute nuts that can't get trumped on the next card.
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07-08-2005, 05:06 PM
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I tried it. I did what all the newbie stuff says. I played with play money so I wouldn't get in trouble and whenever I had a strong starting hand I bet a lot. It worked great. I won almost every time. The one time I lost I had to fold an AQo because my notes on the guy I was up against said he likes to slowplay and there was stuff on the table that could beat me if he had it. I had a pair of queens and there was J,K, and random number cards on the board. He raised to put me all-in. Oh, I took notes too. That was something I'd never done before today. The notes worked great. I could tell who was tight and who was just lucky. Came in 4th out of 45 in a play money tourney.
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07-08-2005, 07:33 PM
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I agree with Beavis.
The way I see it is if you have something, get out there and get people out - Just my opinion.
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07-08-2005, 07:41 PM
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Could someone tell me where I can play a multi table tourny on play money? There seems to be only single table one's on partypoker
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07-08-2005, 07:43 PM
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change my title babo
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by trevor1973
Could someone tell me where I can play a multi table tourny on play money? There seems to be only single table one's on partypoker
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pokerstars
lots of them
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07-09-2005, 11:23 AM
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Someone should explain the difference between preflop and postflop aggression(this is for NL).
Preflop you need to be aggressive to cut down the field of opponents. It's hard for AA to hold up against the whole table calling. You want to bet enough so 1-2 people call only(and this amount varies by the game you sit in, sometimes allins get called by 3 people, sometimes a minraise gets called by no one).
Post flop, if you have what you think might be the best hand, you obviously want to make some money off it. You also don't want people drawing for cheap, so you make bets big enough to make their calls ev- for them.
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07-09-2005, 11:25 AM
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Stu Ungar
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especially in low limit you always want to make the players pay for every card dealt... no freebies without the stone cold nuts
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