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07-01-2005, 10:45 PM
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Check Raiser
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Kings
should I have seen the flop instead?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter
UTG ($24.4)
UTG+1 ($33.2)
MP1 ($11.75)
MP2 ($20.33)
MP3 ($25)
Hero ($20.5)
Button ($7.9)
SB ($25.6)
BB ($19.89)
Preflop: Hero is CO with  ,  . MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 (poster) checks, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $7.90 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls $7.65, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $7.65, Hero calls $19.50 (All-In), BB calls $11.99 (All-In), MP3 calls $12.60.
Flop: ($69.14)  ,  , (4 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: ($69.14) (4 players, 3 all-in)
River: ($69.14) (4 players, 3 all-in)
Final Pot: $69.14
Results in white below:
BB has Ac As (one pair, aces).
MP3 has Ts Th (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Button has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins $67.07. Hero wins $1.22. MP3 wins $0.84.
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07-01-2005, 11:40 PM
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Poker Hustler
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cant fold have to call. thats poker
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07-01-2005, 11:43 PM
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Nothing you can do here, you have to call... unless he is the tightest mofo in the world... just bad luck.
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07-02-2005, 12:55 AM
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It might just be me, but is anyone else laying this down? After your raise you have a re-raise all-in, and two callers. It just goes back to the old saying, when there's one pp, there's another pp. Albeit you do have the second best pp, I really have to think someone has aces.
I guess a call could have been supported as you were getting over 4:1 to call...the button is really lucky slow playing those aces with so many callers (though in reality it was good, because two people cancelled each other out with the 10s)
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07-03-2005, 07:49 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Originally Posted by puddlejumper
It might just be me, but is anyone else laying this down? After your raise you have a re-raise all-in, and two callers. It just goes back to the old saying, when there's one pp, there's another pp. Albeit you do have the second best pp, I really have to think someone has aces.
I guess a call could have been supported as you were getting over 4:1 to call...the button is really lucky slow playing those aces with so many callers (though in reality it was good, because two people cancelled each other out with the 10s)
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Cant lay Ks down in cash game IMO.
I did it only once, it as about the same situation (3 way Ithink not 4), but one of the callers was very very tight passive player.. not a very good one, but he definately had AA or KK.
So I decided to lay down after a 3 minutes time of reflection.
But with the info I have here, I call... I think...
KJ
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07-04-2005, 04:07 AM
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Ya'll know how tight I tend to play, and even I am 99% sure I do the exact same thing in this situation. There are a lot of hands he could have had that he would have done with that, but you are only beat by one of them...Bad luck on you're part that he had it...
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07-05-2005, 07:04 PM
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Fish
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Originally Posted by puddlejumper
It might just be me, but is anyone else laying this down? After your raise you have a re-raise all-in, and two callers. It just goes back to the old saying, when there's one pp, there's another pp. Albeit you do have the second best pp, I really have to think someone has aces.
I guess a call could have been supported as you were getting over 4:1 to call...the button is really lucky slow playing those aces with so many callers (though in reality it was good, because two people cancelled each other out with the 10s)
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this is the exact reason you call....youre odds are positive expectation. on the other hand the only way i see anyone folding cowboys is if you really know your opponent and have him read to certainty.
i would also have called...just poker. but ive always wondered why kings are such ace magnets??
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