I was in a $10 MTT on Pacific, 141 entrants, 30 left. 20 make the money, 1st is $400+. The blinds at this point are 100/200, and I have about 3800 in chips. I was dealt in the SB... 1 person called, then the button made it 600 to go. I called, as did the original caller. Flop came
I checked, and the raiser bet 600. I called, and the other guy folded. comes on the turn. He goes all in for 2100, having me covered by about 100...What do you do?

I did not have any reads on the guy, except the previous hand he had raised preflop and bet on the flop and took it down. ( i had just switched tables)

I'd fold in that situation.

Though I'd have probably either folded or reraised allin preflop depending on my reads on the other guys and whether or not they were likely to fold to pressure.

I'd have definately bet the flop.

I'm all in preflop more than likely and if not, I'm moving in on the flop.

Yeah, this was weak, shoulda jsut handed him 1200 chips and said "heres a gift" PF was ok, i guess, with 14 bets, you're approaching pot committed here, so A push PF is ok too. ON the flop, this was weak, Check?call? WTF? You really can't ask for a flop to miss everybody any more, so what if hes got a big pair, you need to win this pot now. OK maybe a CR would have been sweet, but you didnt do it. End this on the flop.

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Now that you have royally messed up the hand, fold.

Preflop play depends on the player. If he is solid, fold.

If he is a maniac, call and push on that flop.

If he has been raising a lot PF but will lay the hand down reraise PF.

i'm most certainly betting the flop, or at least check raising. folding at this point. you have nothing to put him on.

You should fold the turn. Raise all in or fold on the flop. I see no reason for calling the turn if you saw no reason to raise the flop, not to mention, I see no reason in calling the flop, if you're not comfortable with raising.

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Ah, well everyone replied as I expected. Well, I figured "hey, how can I fuck up EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of this hand?" and i went and did that. By making precisely all of the wrong moves here, I proceeded to go and get what i deserved- a 28th place finish after calling the turn and paying off pocket Q's. Just a terrible play from start to finish, and one that makes me both sick to think of, and wonder who in the fuck was in my body controlling the mouse at that point. Very unlike my usual play, which brings me to a question: Do you guys ever go into "lapses", for lack of a better word, where you just dont understand the play you made, or what you were thinking at the time? Was it because I didnt think the hand through? or acted on impulse? I mean, i know the correct strategy for this situation, and i dont know why i didnt use it... :mad:

all in preflop? that's silly. he's got tens, not aces.

i was in this exact situation earlier today in my MTT. I had jacks in the BB vs an UTG raiser. flop came 10 high and I led out for 36k (forget blind sizes at this point). he studied for a while and pushed with AT and i took him out. this flop is gold for you. bet out. you don't need to commit all of your chips. you had enough for 20 blinds.

given the way you played it, easy turn fold to an unknown. look for a better spot.



"Do you guys ever go into "lapses", for lack of a better word, where you just dont understand the play you made, or what you were thinking at the time?"

yes, all the time, but i get over it. try not to be results oriented. if you had won this by spiking a river ten you might doubletake your play, but you wouldnt come here asking about it. paying off queens sucks in this spot, but this is why its almost always a fold to unkowns.

Allin preflop is not silly in this situation. At this stage of MTTs it's about picking up pots preflop. This a good opportunity to take it down before the flop IF AND ONLY IF you have the necessary read on your opponent.