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06-28-2005, 08:48 PM
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This early, I'd raise it to about 150, if I don't call. I'd prefer calling rather than put myself in a situation where a bet of 10 blinds to see a turn card is cheap. What your opponents are gonna call 200, they'll call 90 or you win 100.
I'd fold the flop for the 100 and let everton take it down. I don't see a point in raising the turn. It's clear that you're not gonna get rid of anyone and you're gonna take a big pot if you're best. If you're not, you still have chips.
DerbyCity's gotta have a Queen, IMO, and I think you're drawing to an Ace, and you could only have 1 out to split an AQ. This, you obviously can't fold. You can't give this image to the table, but I think you're beat.
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GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
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06-28-2005, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marm
No, and thats an honest amoun to raise to. Screw this "artificially infaltion" crap, this was the right move, need to reduce the number of callers here.
Post flop, fuck if I know. some weird betting, but normal for this early in this event. I reallyu dont know what do here....
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Beav is in the SB and the 1st raiser was UTG. Only 3 people in the hand. I;m not against a raise here. I'm saying that if UTG will call 115, he'll call 225. The min. re-raise is always very fishy to me PF. The min. raise is asking to get owned, but the re-raise is very questionable. He didn't re-raise all in, so that's where I like the raise. It's a good feeler and I have no idea what Everton has. I wanna say Kings, but I'd think that he'd min. re-raise to induce another re-raise to move in and he smoothed called Beav with another person in the pot. Maybe, it was to see the flop and avoid an Ace.
The play by your opponents is so bad that I am fairly clueless as well to their hands, but I'm definitely not calling the flop.
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GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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06-28-2005, 09:01 PM
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Well, it is fun seeing all your responses, thanks.
I will say, I stand by my flop and pre-flop play for these tournaments. My reraise was pure CARDPLAYER 101. And it was that amount to lose some players and show strength.
The flop. I am not betting into a 1k flop with nothing, someone had a pair and will like that flop.
The turn I played like a fucking moron.
I pushed all in. UTG cussed out the BB for his idiot min bets and they both folded, UTG showed JJ.
I didnt THINK anyone would have KQ QJ or QT, and the A on the turn made AQ less likely to the point where I would have accepted it. However, not much would scare me on the river, and I should have played it slower to build a pot. I was hoping an underpair would call, but that was dumb.
BTW, I finished 24th or so. Two top 25 finishes in a row.
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06-28-2005, 09:12 PM
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I was gonna guess at Everton having JJ, and DerbyCity to have an Ace, at least. He should've never seen the flop, obviously. I would've called and checked the river. Looking at the hand again, it makes me wonder why you'd check the turn. You made your "odds" call on the flop for what? A runner-runner straight? You had a read on no Queen, but they look like they'll play ball. With the pot at 1075, they were down to drop another 100. Why wouldn't one person drop 100-200 on the turn. I think you could've snagged one for the ride.
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GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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06-28-2005, 09:26 PM
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My check was something I have picked up from Championship NL and PL Hold'em that has really proved it worth.
"Checking for information"
Checking to see what your opponents do. I was hoping they would put another 100-400 in the pot as a feeler.
I called becasue I thought my overcards might be good. If they are, very little harm in checking when it hits.
I should have check raised about 400 though that would be hard for an underpair to laydown, but they didnt have THAT many chips. So an all in my look like a bluff.
I am happy, I finished high in the money again. Could have played this hand better though.
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06-28-2005, 09:29 PM
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Congrats on the money. How much was the cash good for?
Funny that you checked for information, got the information, and went against the information by blowing your load. Been there many times.
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GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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06-28-2005, 10:00 PM
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yeah, the big question is what do you do with the info?
It was only 5 bucks, but that is a 400% ROI.
How many people with 900$ bankrolls are playing these things?
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06-29-2005, 12:26 AM
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I think this info tells you, since your read says that you have the best hand, that they're not willing to invest much in this hand. If I had your feeling, I'm thinking:
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With the pot at 1075, they were down to drop another 100. Why wouldn't one person drop 100-200 on the turn. I think you could've snagged one for the ride.
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Originally Posted by FaDi
GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
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06-29-2005, 10:10 AM
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change my title babo
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yeah, the big question is what do you do with the info?
It was only 5 bucks, but that is a 400% ROI.
How many people with 900$ bankrolls are playing these things?
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I am! I only play $10s and lower online when it comes to tournaments. Dunno why..
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