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arghhhh. villain has been playing everything but solid. he seems to have something out for me because i bluffed him earlier out of a big pot(he doesnt know i bluffed) and have been winning every pot off him. hes been calling a lot of raises and ive been hitting good flops and just betting them straight up. heres earlier bluff if it helps http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=80241 he did almost same thing

i checked on turn because i was expecting a bet if i checked. i got exactly what i wanted, but couldnt pull the trigger on the river. would a blocking bet on river be better? did i fold a winner? he could be slow playing or some kind of funky 2 pair. i dno im lost.

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($99)
Hero ($260.55)
MP3 ($41.50)
CO ($131.55)
Button ($112.15)
SB ($27)
BB ($82)
UTG ($15.30)
UTG+1 ($94.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, 2 folds.

Flop: ($7.50) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($17.50) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($37.50) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $87.50

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I'd like to see a block on the river, definitely. I could see Villian betting the same on the river with KJ, QJ, JT, J9, TT, 99, and ESPECIALLY a busted flush draw. You're really only scared of 66 and 22.

Smells like a busted club draw. If he had trips, I'd think that he bets smaller on the river after a check from you. He definitely shows no will to get called because he has no reason to believe that you will call after that check.

I'm thinking that his bluff is a busted club draw because if he wanted to bluff, he would've done so earlier, I'd think (i.e. on the flop or turn). He was definitely drawing and wanted to trap you if he hit as oppossed to semi-bluffing. A lot of bad players do this on draws like this.

I don't mind your fold, though. It sets up a nice trap, but I'd prefer to see a blocking bet of $15-$20.

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yea that sounds good. ive never used the blocking bet. theres a couple of things like that, that i know about but dont use them when they should be used

i need to get better with that. theres a couple of other things that i cant think of, but they would def help me out.

this guy is still at the table and calling almost every raise of mine. we weach have 260+ at the table i hope i get another chance at him

edit: it doesnt look like a value bet. it looks like an obvious bluff. hes an idiot so i dno, but better spots right?

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I think this is a toss up.

At these limits a large river bet looks like a fish bluff but if I have a set when I see a broken flush with a good TPTK chance I will push hard (faking the bluff).. at this level (if your table rep is loose) .. you have a good chance of getting a call..

I would have called here BUT only because its a 50/50 call with a good pot on offer AND (this is important) both your hole cards are the same colour. If they had been red and black I would have folded.

For me I was always weak in these broken flush situations ( I was putting down way too often). He may put you on a broken flush whilst he only has mid pair but wants to improve his odds by knocking out the jack if you have it(To my mind a Jack high flop is THE bluff flop).

You can go round in circles on this one but near as dammit I reckon you need to call 50% of the time .. so I let the poker gods decide on the same colour hole cards = call: different colour hole cards = fold criterion. There is no point in trying to bluff me because I do not make an emotional decision about the call.

Just for fun my preflop raise size is dictated by my hole cards (in a random way) too. You can almost hear ppl think "why did he make that 3bb raise late two hands ago when he showed KK and what does that 4bb raise early on this hands actually mean?? .. OMG he has AA... Multitabling I let other ppl worry about it...lol.

The other day on the cryptos I re-raised a guy with AK black, suited.. after a very long time he put down KK ( he told me the idiot!) and then said " I've seen you limp in with QQ before".. I congratulated him on his read..although the truth was they were probably a different colour when I limped in with them

I don't know what the PS rake is at the moment.. but I really don't like taking on maniacs one on one - you just get a stream of 50bb bets on marginal hands leading to 100bb swings with 10bb in rake to move up 1bb (i.e very -ev) in winnings.

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From what I've seen, he's an early bluffer- calls a raise PF to bluff on the flop or turn, not this big on the river. That supports your point, Deme. But these guys are also prone to raising with big hands looking to double up when the betting is this small because they wanna up the stakes. JK is not throwing too much money around and a guy like this is gonna pick on this very early with a set and up the stakes to step in the direction of doubling up. If he had QJ or better, I think he's minimum raising the turn.

He didn't bluff the flop and he didn't raise the turn. This screams draw from a player like this.

... And if he had 45, he's definitely raising the turn. The reason to play 45 like this PF and on the flop is catch someone off guard when you hit and people like this who'll play 45 to a 3BB raise PF (not saying I wouldn't) with cream on the table when they hit on the turn and it'll stain the chips and cards in the middle for EVERYONE to see, even in the virtual world.

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blocking bet.....wtf is that...I might've used it before instinctively. is it you bet so they call your small amount instead of letting them decide how much the river bet is?

personally i would have bet out the turn to try and get more info....theres no reason to think your beat after the turn and if your gonna call a $10 bet then why not bet it. He may have sensed that as weakness but like some others i figure its a missed flush draw..an overbet of the pot like that is asking not to get called.

Betting another $10 on this river would be an example of a blocking bet. You really don't want to check and have someone make a $50 bet like this.

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the people on Live at the Bike call it a "Stop Bet" its a really good strategy, especially when you dont want someone to bluff into you.... consider how much money you would feel comfortable calling, and instead bet that amount.. along with a small amount of FE (possibly) you take the lead in the hand, you won't get bluffed into (unless the person realizes it's a stop bet) and you probably stay in cheaper than if you let someone else bet the pot... very common play for people with draws in early position... I do it frequently, and i think it is a good idea

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