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JTs in the BB with a heavy flop- limit hand Pt. I
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in the BB. MP2 and CO have limped. Everyone else has folded. Would you guys raise in the BB PF to steal on the flop? We were having 2-4 seeing flops and seldom were more than 2 seeing the turn, but I'd guess than 11 of 20 hands were showing down.
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Thread: JTs in the BB Pt. II
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06-25-2005 #1
JTs in the BB Pt. II
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06-25-2005 #2PokerForums God
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that is too advance for me, I may raise several limpers for value and to disguise my draw.
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06-25-2005 #3
Well if they have a habit of folding to shows of strength, then maybe, but I doubt it. Why not take the free flop and see 72% of your hand?
Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.
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06-25-2005 #4
I dont raise this, but I think it's an interesting question.
I don't think we gain much fold equity by raising though. in other words, I think the flops I'm bluffing are ones I would bet regardless of whether or not I raised preflop in this situation.
Another thing to consider is that you don't want your hand range to be too narrow when you raise out of the BB in this situation. ie If i wanted to exapnd my range of raising hands in this situation, JTs type hands would probably be the best place to start.
Just some thoughts I guess.
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06-26-2005 #5
Actually, I like a raise here. Hit any part of your hand on the flop, and your bet will get respected. Draws may call on the flop, but then you can take it down on the turn. Or if you hit your hand big, you can represent overcards, and your bet may get raised falling into your hands.
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in the BB. MP2 and CO have limped. Everyone else has folded. Would you guys raise in the BB PF to steal on the flop? We were having 2-4 seeing flops and seldom were more than 2 seeing the turn, but I'd guess than 11 of 20 hands were showing down.

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