20/40 (10% $5max. rake no rake if no turn) @ Trump 8-handed.
One just left. The player on my left is waiting to post as is another player who was just moved. Semi-tight for a Thursday night (which have been active lately with school out) table with a lot of limping PF as opposed to PF raising. The player in the CO was fairly aggressive on many streets, but not all that loose. His cards were at least mathematically justified as far as I could remember through the session. I wasn't really paying much attention to MP2, in all honesty, so I had no read there. He was a frat lookin' kid with sunglasses and a Duke hat, if that means anything to you.
Me: in the BB
3 folds. MP2 calls. CO calls. Button and SB fold. I check.
Flop (pot= $70): (might've been a diamond)
I bet. MP2 calls. CO raises. I ________?
I'm not gonna fold, but am I raising or calling and what am I looking to do with the wide amount of cards that can hit the turn when those cards hit. If a blank hits, the board pairs, a spade hits, a 9 hits? What about a Queen, King, or Ace? What's your gameplan in this spot?
And question #2 can be seen here:
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June 25th, 2005 #1
JTs in the BB with a heavy flop- limit hand Pt. I
June 25th, 2005 #2
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Unlikely he has a pair above 9s.
So, you have nine outs for the flush, 3 more for the straight, and 6 overcards.
12 very strong outs and 6 decent ones. I would raise it up.
I would check call the turn though if I missed.
June 25th, 2005 #3
Raise for info. See if hes got a set (whihc he'll four bet) or TP/Free card play, which then he'll jsut call. And obviously you have more outs than him, which outs are live though is the question.
If he four bets, obivously call (5 betting, if allowed, probably isnt worth it here), and check call the turn, you should have odds to do so on the turn, even if hes got you over flushed, you still got 9 outs ot th str8 and higher pair (if hes got As8s).Luck is a Residue of Design.
June 25th, 2005 #4
I would probably just call, One of the worst possible situations you could be in is if he has giving you only three outs. I would just call to see a turn and go from their
June 25th, 2005 #5
edit: > 3 outs but still a dominating pos for him
June 25th, 2005 #6
10 outs vs A8s?“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann
June 25th, 2005 #7
Raise this for sure, it's good to get more money in this pot for you.
Also, MP2 MAY be on a straight draw, so you could possibly lose 6 outs (your overcards) that would make him a straight. A raise will probably get those draws out.
Last edited by Ck1221; February 19th, 2011 at 07:01 PM.
June 25th, 2005 #8
No, 9 outs vs , gives him the better flush.Luck is a Residue of Design.
June 25th, 2005 #9
Do you guys really want to isolate yourself vs the CO?
Or I guess another question would be what would you guys be hoping for when you raise?
June 25th, 2005 #10
Thats another huge consideration. If MP2 will call 2 bets cold, you probably DO want to raise just because your equity in this pot is higher than 33%“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann
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