This happened in a tournament my dad played in recently...It was a big limit tourney... He was a midstack and in the BB with apparently, the woman a couple seats to his left had raised his blind the previous 5 rounds...with this in mind, and with a decent starting hand, he chose to reraise her...she called, flop came nothing, he bet, she called. turn came, still nothing for him, he checked, she bet, and he layed it down. She turned over ... I have expressed my opinion that I disagreed with his reraise on the flop, and if he thinks his hand is good, he should be just calling with it, especially out of position. He has maintained his view that he would make the same play every time in that situation, and that he needed to show her that he would "kick back at her" sometimes, so she wouldnt be so inclined to raise his blind every time...what do you guys think?

If he thinks that she's stealing his blinds, what does it matter what his cards are? If they ARE stealing then they'll just lay it down, so waiting for a good hand isn't necesarilly required.

As for his play post flop, seeing as he didn't have anything...and he she CALLED his re-raise, I'm very leary of betting out, unless she's a total fish, he could have saved himself one bet. Though he did alright to get rid of it when he did?

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well my only problem with the reraise is the fact that since it's a limit tournament, she only has to call 1 extra bet... she would probably call it, especially with position, with just about everything (getting about 6-1 on the call)...that's why if the flop doesnt hit him, he saved himself a bet there, and he wont feel obligated to make a continuation bet. (which, to be honest, im not 100% positive he bet the flop, im just concerned more with the preflop play; i'll get a confirmation on that later today though) because of the limit factor i disagree with the reraise...he's been standing his ground though, saying that he wanted to send her message that he would reraise her, and next time, if she didnt have such a good hand and was thinking about trying to steal, she would think twice, not wanting to risk the reraise

good players change up their play. in this instance this particular lady wanted a re-raise and if she thinks that your dad will play with her then maybe she just does raise with legitimate hands for a while. good players can keep you guessing like that.

i know good players change up their play...however, this is not an instance where it happened...she had done the same thing 5 times in a row- it just so happened that the time she had a real hand my dad had a playable hand, and had had it with her raising. but its his preflop play that i question- i dont think a raise was necessary, and i think he could have saved himself a bet or two by just calling

Does he really have that good of a hand to be calling a raise...even if it is in the blind? He is out of position with a marginal hand. I say re-raise (try to steal from the stealer) or fold. Like I mentioned earlier, if he is going to re-steal he might as well do it with 27o than wait around for a good hand, and this way if he gets called down, and a monster flop comes out (for him) the caller won't give him credit for it and he can win more bets.

It's not necessarily true that she'll call, if she's on a pure steal then most likely (if she's not a fish) will muck it, however, if she calls you can give her credit for a hand as was in the case in this scenario.

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Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
Bean181818: i've been faithful
xcrunman02: me too
Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

Most flops are going to miss, so calling isn't the always the best.

How much did she raise compared to the blinds, and how much did he reraise.

From the looks of things, I like how he played it.

KJ is a fine hand to defend the blnds vs an active player. Raising shows he will actively defend his blind - chips stack is important too.

there's a saying from many well-known poker pros and authors: It's better to be the bettor... not only do you have the possibility to win the hand right there, but it also advertises for the future that you will not be pushed around... in limit tourneys i see myself very often check-raising people in the earlier rounds so they learn not to f**k with my blinds later in the tournament where they become more important... consequently i see more free cards and get more respect when i bet.... just my .02

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well i always saw both points and tried to stick to my guns on what i thought (that he should have just called), however, you guys changed my mind...very good points, and good reasonings. he'll be pleased to know what you guys thought. thanks

BTW, this was the $1500 Limit Hold'em in the WSOP, (event #4 i think)

also, beav-
it was a limit tourney, so the raise and reraise were exactly the BB :-)...
as far as chip stacks, i believe he had around 3200 with the blinds at 100-200