Cake Poker
Home
News
Articles
Site Reviews
Book Reviews
Interviews
Chat
Tournaments
60% Rakeback
50% RakebackNew!
125% Rakeback
Probabilities
Glossary
Poker Gear
Links
Advertise
User Name  
 
Password
Cookie?  
 
 
Poker Players on Launchpoker.com
LaunchPoker.com provides you with all the information you need about this year's WSOP event, from the 2008 WSOP schedule to the latest 2008 WSOP updates.
Online poker reviews of rooms such as Full Tilt Poker, Poker Stars and Titan Poker.
Extras

RakeBack
PokerListings

  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2005, 06:15 PM
bonchkid's Avatar
change my title babo
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 6,758
Trade Rating: (0)
Default Another hand on the bubble

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter

Button (t3380)
SB (t5700)
Hero (t2730)
UTG (t1690)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, Button calls t100, 1 fold, Hero raises to t500, Button raises to t3380, Hero ...
__________________
“There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

Last edited by bonchkid; 06-17-2005 at 08:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Personal Poker Pal
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2005, 06:17 PM
Av8tor009's Avatar
Stu Ungar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 2,928
Trade Rating: (1)
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
Send a message via AIM to Av8tor009
Default

ur owned, lay it down
__________________
IIAv8tionII - ME
Av8tion - SCAMMER

Online Tournament Wins: 11
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Marm's Avatar
PokerForums God
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 9,296
Trade Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Marm Send a message via MSN to Marm
Default

Shit, i dunno, flip a coin.... Best case your 80/20, most like your 50/50 worst your 20/80. Really need mroe info on the button, will he be aggresive if he smells a steal???
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
River Rat
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 292
Trade Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to itsMrHankey2u
Default

Having played one SnG with you and seeing from your recent posts, I'd call this. Looks to me like a guy that just wants to push back.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2005, 01:01 AM
Chaser
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 180
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

I'd fold. To much risk, a call and a loss would wipe you out. save the all in for sometime when you can seethe rest if the hand. Pre-flop all ins at th9is stage a re dangerous, so say he is bluffing and has 2c 6c, and then ctahced a straight or a flush?

FOLD
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2005, 09:54 AM
PokerForums God
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,172
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

4 handed I would make the call with10s, you are getting 1.3:1 on your money.

There is a case for folding too, but callign gives you are great shot at first.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2005, 10:15 AM
maxpot's Avatar
Fish Food
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 29
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

hi

first off, your overbet preflop is what got you in a sticky situation here. i can't see a good arg for raising more than 300-400. now that you have 500 in the middle already along with the blinds, you've put yourself in a tougher spot, whereas 300 you could fold easy.

on the call, it's that old calculation of the range of possible raising hands for villian vs % of those hands you beat vs odds on the call weighed by your chip position.

i think since it's the bubble, your opponent has to be given a little more credit than usual for a hand. s/he has little reason to risk basically busting against you without a strong hand. if we assume the range then [and i think this is generous, btw] of their hands goes from 99-AA + AK - AQ, you dominate once at 4 1/2-1 and are dominated ... eh, i dont' feel like doing the math, but let's say you're roughly even to be against two overs or a bigger pair. somoene else tell me how wrong i am please. brain still slow, coffee on delayed timer i guess.

of course, this is also a good place for your opponent to represent that strength, so that issue comes down to what you know about the player and their capcity for a tricky play.

anyhow, i raise less PF and probably fold here in a SNG. if we're already past the bubble and three handed, i'm probably calling. in a multi on the bubble i'm more tempted to call, but probably fold. in ring, i fold like a shot.

for some reason lately, i cannot type the work more correctly. it keeps coming out mroe.

maxpot
__________________
www.parttimepoker.com - holdem strategy, poker humor and more
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2005, 09:31 PM
Marm's Avatar
PokerForums God
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 9,296
Trade Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Marm Send a message via MSN to Marm
Default

500 isnt an overbet, thats only a 4bb raise, Only habitual min raisers consider this an overbet. There is a minimum threshold at each table that will cause others to fold.... for some tables its 2 bb,s for others its 6. Depends on the table.

But again, we really can't answer this unless we know more about the button. Personally, against an aggressive player who may think your stealing, I think you should think hes stealing with crap, and push.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2005, 06:27 PM
the alex's Avatar
PokerForums God
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nort Side o' Shi-kawgo
Posts: 7,961
Trade Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to the alex Send a message via MSN to the alex Send a message via Yahoo to the alex
Default

To fold, Villian has to be uber-tight. This isn't the bubble. I think of SnG money as 1st. 2nd isn't bad and 3rd is "At least I didn't lose money. What a waste of time." This player dependent. I'd think you have a read. If not, I say call no matter what's in the pot.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06-20-2005, 05:30 AM
KINGJACK's Avatar
Stu Ungar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Montréal
Posts: 2,398
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

Without other information, I would call ibn a heart beat.

And BTW, wanting my oponent to go over the top, I would have done it this way. I like the play. You make it look a little bit like a steal and left enough room for a resteal.

With 1600 chips you want to go all in with 10-10 on ly 4 hands better than yours.

KJ
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:31 PM.

   Designed by
      
No Deposit Bonus
Poker Strategy
Poker Rooms
PartyPoker Bonus Codes
Online Poker Strategy
Online Casino Bonuses
Pokerspiele
Casinos That Accept USA Players
Poker Rakeback
Full Tilt bonus code
Rakeback
Poker Site USA
Nowadays in the Internet the Players are looking for a good Casino Bonus to find the best possible options for online Roulette.There is now the option of RtlPoker and a nice Casino Bonus to play some other games then just Poker.
The ideal casino site for gokkasten and even online poker including online casino games that can be found on mijn online casino, your casino information site for when gambling online or even offline.
Party Poker bonus code & room review
Tony G talks about his experinces in his blog
REVIEW OF PARADISE POKER WEBSITE
Online Poker Room Directory and latest poker news
Best Online Poker info on Internet!
Ultimate Bet new 40% deposit bonus
Copyright © 2004-2008 PokerForums.org, a Merendi Networks Inc. project.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.