hi all,i have taken up poker in the last 3 months,i didnt even know the hands!lol but i bought 3 books,from poker for dummies to super system,you"ll probably laugh but i am a noob/fish whatever and im doing well,i consistently come 1st or second in pretty much all the sit n gos i play but recently took up cash games,im talking micros here,but im having trouble playing the guys there because they are calling stations!heres an example, i could raise 4x big blind under the gun and some one could call and the flop would come K,6,10 for instance,and i bet almost the pot size again,or more,and the other guy calls,and this would continue through to the river,me raising,betting and them calling to a K,6,10,Q,2 i would bet big on the river and get called,the card would show and the guy wins the pot with JJ?¬?!?! because i had AJ?(so i was bluffing)but i had fully represented a possible A,K, or K,Q pre flop-post flop to river!!why do they call?do they not think i have the king?this seems so common at the micros!is this because its full of shit players who over value their hands and wont let go?or do you think its my poor play in general?i play pretty solid,im not loose and i dont think i over/underbet so i dont get it? has anyone anybody with a long history in a poker got an answer on this?would appreciatte it.take it easy on me,im new!haha
thanks

14 views and no reply,chatty bunch here.fair enough,i"ll figure it out over time

normally in low cash games you will find amature players, personally I cna't realy understand their game.. the higher the blinds in tables the better the players.. NOTE : i'm not a professional player, but i can say what i know books are good for theory but when you get to play for real you need experience.. hope this helped

yeah i have noticed they are very bad,and im a total noob!haha i dont get why they find it IMPOSSIBLE to fold! im starting to see the importance of table experience over study,thanks for the pointers mate

First, start putting your opponents on a range, and how they play that range. This is the foundation of the next level of thinking. It may be difficult when your opponents are so stupid, but you have to try.

What was your own thought process at each street? Did you consider your opponents playstyle? Did you have notes or reads on your opponent allowing you to bluff them profitably? Do you understand the math behind bluffing?
Also, what hand did you hold? Last time I checked, AJ on a KQTxx board made a straight, so you are mistaken. If this is fullring (8-10 players) any hand that you should be opening with would have won against a JJ. Save and post your actual hand histories. There are so many questions about this hand that could be cleared up with a real hand history.

Going on...
Focus on valuebetting, calling stations are going to be your cash cow at the lowest limits. Focus on exploiting these calling station by slowly increasing your valuebetting range, use medium strength hands that you feel more confident in but usually tend to check/call.

You should also do post-session analysis of your hands after a session. Apply ranges 'n stuff.

I'll check in more often if you keep posting, it's been a ghost town around here.

Well,firstly,thanks for the clued up reply,I was hoping there would be players like you here who know their poker an I can't learn something! A lot of poker players are jackasses and act like they were never a beginner,witch I why im not sure about live games right now because I'm not a guy who suffers fools gladly if u know what I mean lol
oh shit yeah,I didnt notice I put a queen on on 4th street,sorry,it was just an example of a usual senario at micros,not an actual hand but it is close to an actual hand I played,I didn't notice I wrote "layers" eIther lol but yeah i was playing tight for at least 2 hours so I was known to be tight on the table,like I said I bet very strong pre flop and post flop,I play very abc poker right now,I don't have the skills too find my own style at this stage so im not a random betting donk?but I get called relentlessly at the micros to the point they might beat me on the river!! How do you counter this kind of play?it becomes a luck game!its like if you don't go all in on every Hand then you have to run the risk of bieng out drawn on the turn or river?how can u play these Ppl? I hear u on the hand history records but how do I get these?

OP, you are making a classic beginner's mistake, which is to try to blow calling stations off a pot. The way you beat players like this is extremely simple:

1. Bet with a good hand.
2. If you didn't hit, often but not always bet the flop because you are likely ahead with your strong opening range.
3. If they call and you don't have much STOP BETTING IMMEDIATELY.
4. If you did hit/have a good hand BET BET BET.

That's it, it's as easy as that. In your opening example, bet flop and then shut down and do not put another cent into the pot.

Ah ok,I think the plays I make are too much like the ones from books I read witch arent suitable for micros! I"ll do what you said from now on,thanks for the advice

Originally Posted by daniton!

Ah ok,I think the plays I make are too much like the ones from books I read witch arent suitable for micros! I"ll do what you said from now on,thanks for the advice

The thing is, books don't tend to recommend beginners barrelling 3 streets with air but because poker is extremely situational it can sound like it: you hear "AK is a great hand" plus "aggression is key", you put them together and stack off with Ace high.

well this is how i it occured,i was under the gun with AQ and i raised around 4x(maybe a bit much with AQ),no callers except a guy around mid position,he called,the flop came,one was a king,i bet around the pot size,he called,already this is madness.but then the turn.a rag,so i bet big again,he called,then the river,another rag,i went all in,i was too involved in the pot to just fold or check now,and he called! with f****g JJ! and took the pot,but i think that from the very start of this hand i represented AK or KK right?isnt that what you would think?if a guy raises 4x utg and a king comes on the flop and the betting remains large and a ggressive,wouldnt you fold with JJ? i had been playing tight the whole time aswell,its not like he had me down as a pot stealer or bluffer?very strange,if i was him i would put me on AK or KK?what do you guys think?if you were him and you didnt know my hole cards?