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    Default Telling Your Cards

    I'm sure sometimes while playing, you'll get someone who, when they're dealt their pocket, says "I have rockets" or something similar. At my games at least, the person is joking and either has nothing or just a decent pocket. I'm wondering whether it would be beneficial at times to actually say your hand outright, which would probably lead people to believe you definetly don't have those cards. On the flip side, after you've done this a few times, you could begin to use it as a bluff. Do any of you have experience using this?

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    According to TJ Cloutier, if you announce your hand you better be lying.
    “There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about.” - John von Neumann

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    i have experienced this and tried this a number of times in different ways. allow me to indulge in a few stories if i may.

    1) playing .25 / .50 nl on noble poker. three clubs fall on the flop. I'm holding j/6 with no clubs. immediately after the flop i say "sweeeet all clubs." i know it seems joking, but it worked. guy bet, i re-raised and he folded.

    2) foxwoods sitting at 2/4. asian guy comes and sits down. rich guy. says he's an investment banker. pulls out stacks of money. just a ton of money. he was there to have fun obviously. gets dealt his cards and plays the hand blind. betting, raising till capped, etc. ends up winning. then looks at his cards and tells everyone what he has. THEN continues to update what he has as the flop, turn, river are being dealt. he has a pair he'll say it. at the river he will bet and say, if you can beat 7s with a king kicker, raise me. people would either fold or do what he said. those that actually could beat him would call and win. he never lied. very weird strategy. i've yet to see anyone like this guy...

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    edit: ok what NOT to do

    actually one thing just happened

    I was BB. 5 handed everyone limped in.
    SB is a crazy all in bluffer (so I got a good seat on his left).

    so naturally he went all in.
    into my AA, and I was all in as well.

    so I announced I had AA, and the other 3 folded.
    Because don't know where I read it, pairs go down in value the more multiway the pot is.
    Last edited by coash; 06-10-2005 at 10:07 PM.

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    um i think AA does well in multiway pots. lower pocket pairs go down cuz the odds are greater that there are more cards in people's hands that are higher than yours and that one of them will hit a pair that beats yours. AA has no such risk. i don't think you want to make that hand heads up. i could be mistaken though.
    Last edited by missy; 06-10-2005 at 09:57 PM.

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    Yeah was thinking that it wasn't such a good play after all lol...cos as you said the situation only goes for lower pairs
    DAAHH

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    I'm a very agressive player and poeple who know me pretty well tend to call my big raises with flush draws or 2nd pair on the folp or with marginal hand pre flop...

    So, some times, when the pot is already big and I want to take it right now, and, of course, if I know i'm the front runner and my hand is vulnaralbe to flushes or anything else, I go all in and show. Never been called with this.

    Of course I only do it in no rebuy tournaments and SnGs... no reasons to do it in cash games...

    KJ

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    if you announce your hand where i play you get kicked out of the card room. You are not allowed to sit there and say " i have the straight" then look at your opponent and see their reaction...thats cheating and/or completely unethical.
    Last edited by poker_roo; 06-11-2005 at 08:54 AM.

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    Well I may be wrong about this but I'm fairly sure it's not cheating, and in my opinion I also don't think it's unethical.

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    I'd say, you should almost never talk about your cards at all. It can only spread information.

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