Good fold.

Not sure I would have raised on the flop, I may have waited to see what comes on the turn. But that flop sucks for you, almost nothing you want to see on the turn.

Alex, what does a raise accomplish? You aren't going to get out a loan Ad or Kd, and probably not a Qd either.

You think you think someone with just over cards but no flush draw will call one bet, but fold for two? That still doesn't buy you much for outs.

Of course, you may be able to learn if you are beaten a little more cheaply by raising now.

If Gir and just called and it was raised, he could still dump it, and if not, he could see a turn cheaply and have a better idea of the strength of the hand.

I am not positive about the right play here, heck, even the lone non-diamond J isn't a safe card for you, but you have no way of winning it on the flop.

Originally Posted by Marm

I LOVE the raise! Info Info Info! Excellently played Gire!

Anybody willing to 3 bet this flop si telling you that your hand is made, and will nto improve that much. Your either behind now, or up agaisnt a monster draw. Good lay down.

What if they just call? What have you learned?

What if you call and it is raised behind you - does that tell you less?

Maybe they have hands you have outs against still? Like a pair with the Ad - or top two pair.

Seeing that there were only the blinds in the pot I like this raise even less.

Now you are folding in a position where you are getting 13:1.

You have to know your opponent playing from the blinds would only 3-bet you with a flush and not something like , , top two pair, or .

You just built a big pot with a hand you cannot easily define.

I like to find out where I am in the hand on the flop when it is cheap usually, but here the pot is already short-handed and the pot is big enough you are not going to give the flush draws improper odds to fold, and someone with an Ace had the odds to raise.

Odds will change drastically on the turn, wait until then.

Originally Posted by Girevik

If I just call there I'm pretty much stuck calling it down the whole way, so I figured a raise there could well save me a BB on the turn and river.

Turns out the guy "only" had two pair - I was still beat, but I when I saw the showdown I was really surprised that he would reraise that with all the flush and straight possiblities out there. Makes me wonder if capping the flop and raising the turn might have stolen it for me.

There are worse things than calling down in big pots. You would have lost an extra bet and a half, but there are quite a few hands you are ahead of, or would have outs against that could make calling it down or waiting to see the turn to raise where you could possibly lose the SB and see a showdown for free +EV.

Or you could dump the hand on the turn if a fourth diamond hits the turn and save a SB.