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  1. #1
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    Default SnG short stacked A9off in SB

    $50 SnG on Party

    There are still 2 more hands until the blinds go up. The table is uber-tight. The button is beginning to get aggressive. All in, call, or fold?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

    MP1 (t1040)
    MP2 (t2585)
    CO (t650)
    Button (t1625)
    Hero (t550)
    BB (t775)
    UTG (t235)
    UTG+1 (t540)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, 3 folds, Button raises to t100, Hero __________?

    Fill in the blank. What do you think? Poll's closing on Sunday. Any raise lesser than all in is a no-no here. If that's your choice, you better have a good reason.
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    3 pay?

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    i'm folding here. i agree that it's either a raise or fold situation, since you have 11 bb left and they go up soon.

    it seems weird to me that the button just min raised...like maybe he has something really good and is trying to pull a bit more money out of the other guy (you said it was a tight table so maybe he thought that was all the guy would call)? like maybe ATs+ or a pocket pair above ten? why else would he min raise? maybe he has a low pp and wants to make sure it's a heads up hand so he min raises to get you out? either way i think i'd fold and wait for better cards to push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoManner
    3 pay?
    Yeah, 3 pay.

    1st: $250
    2nd: $150
    3rd: $100
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    I wouldn't even consider going all in. You have to wait until you get a better hand, because even if he's bluffing, you're at best a 3:1 favorite. If he's not bluffing, at best you're at a 3:2 favorite, and at worst you could be completely dominated by something like an AK, AA, AQ, AJ, AT, et cetera. If there was no raise before you, I'd say go for it, but there was one, so I'd fold.

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    I could also very easily be a coin flip or a 3:1 favorite, not to mention folding equity and blinds rising very soon. Good analysis, though. Playing devil's advocate here. I don't think that there is much of an obvious "right or wrong" answer here IMHO. Just looking for arguments.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
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    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    I have to say it's a fold, but I am intrigued by your mention that the button is starting to get aggresive. If it's early in a gear-change for him, I would think that increases the chances that he's pretty weak, and just raising based on position. I know that has worked for me, although not with a minimum raise. So even though that would lead a bit more toward calling, I'd have to know something about the UTG+1 limper. If he's a solid player, then A9 goes to the muck. If I don't know anything about either, muck. So, I can see a call but only if I've got the right information on my opponents. I don't like a raise. As you said, any raise is all in. The only reason to make that play would be if you believe one or both will fold. But, then you're committed to a hand that needs a flop. A call (if not reraised) allows you to see if you catch for T75, leaving you with T475 (right?). That's going to be close to the size of the pot depending on the rest of the action. If the flop hits, then push and double. If not, fold and stay alive - the button is next, you've got a few hands left to try and double back up before the blinds hit again. But again, if I don't know my opponents here, I'm gone.
    Last edited by bnancs; 05-27-2005 at 10:34 AM.

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    I selected re-raise all-in but it bothers me that the 'table is uber-tight' and yet the 'getting agressive' button only made a minimum raise.

    It's probably better in the long run to fold like a man and wait for a better hand since the blinds just passed you, but I prefer aggressiveness and you don't have many chips to work with after the big blind goes up to 100.

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    I'm folding. Puttin the button on my aggresive raising req's, A9o is about mid way through the hands, so basically in my mind, its a 50/50 shot if Im beat here. Not a risk I want to take. And actually I'm not minding a blind increase soon here, i got lots of hands to play before I get pegged with the BB. So when I double up later in this round, the biggers blinds will jsut make my stack that much bigger.

    Now, a case can be made for pushing in here, which is all dependent on HOW aggressive the button ahs become. Is he LA or TA? Meaning will he call your bet5 just to play out the hand, or will he now reevaluate his hand inlight of your raise?
    Marm is back, maybe. Been off for 3 years. Rusty as Hell.

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    Fold but you're lookg to pick a spot very soon.
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