So, twice today I have been dealt KK when my opponent has AA. Twice I have lost the 25$ buy in to one of the 6 10/25c NLHE on full tilt that I play when I am grinding. Other than these two hands I am doing well and I am only down 10$ despite losing 50 on these two.

So the way I have always played KK preflop is simple: If they check, bet. If they bet, raise. If they raise, go all in.

I just can't imagine not wanting to shove KK preflop even if your opponent shows strength. Especially at the lower stakes like I am playing where donkeys often shove with AJ offsuit.

Should I play KK more conservatively, or did I just have a bit of bad luck. Do you guys always shove KK preflop if possible?

Bad luck sir. Happens to us all.

I guess it depends on the stakes and type of game u are playing , imo,
I sometimes try to trap pre-flop with KK then if an A comes on the flop I raise , if raise is called
I suspect some1 has made AA , and if a small flop comes e.g 7 5 2 , I raise to prevent pairing ,
if I'm called I suspect a lower pair or if re-raised I suspect AA (of course) or 2 pair , then
I will call if the raise isn't too much and try for KKK , but if pushed all in (not hitting KKK) I will
fold ...
Hope it makes sense , but then thats just my style of play at the moment ... who knows the
"right" way to know if KK is beat ...
just a side note I'm trying to stop going all in unless I have the absolute nuts , this means
folding bigger and bigger hands what do u guys think of this idea ... ?

Yesterday I hit a set of K's on the flop with AKx. Thought I had the guy so I pushed after his reraise. Calls and turns over a set of Aces.

eesshh thats hard , but check this I was playing my poker game and had AA
flop came something like QQA so I though its unbeatable right !? ha ha the turn K
I went all in after some huge re-raises from an opponent I guessed he had AQ or AK , he had KQ ....then river comes QQAK Q!!!! I had the full house beat by quads on the river ! damn
So yeah thats why I think try only go all in when its absolute nuts , the rest of the time
one has to try gut instinct ...imo of course

Originally Posted by ninjax

eesshh thats hard , but check this I was playing my poker game and had AA
flop came something like QQA so I though its unbeatable right !? ha ha the turn K
I went all in after some huge re-raises from an opponent I guessed he had AQ or AK , he had KQ ....then river comes QQAK Q!!!! I had the full house beat by quads on the river ! damn
So yeah thats why I think try only go all in when its absolute nuts , the rest of the time
one has to try gut instinct ...imo of course

Ouch, that's a pretty sick beat.

Originally Posted by timmertown

So, twice today I have been dealt KK when my opponent has AA. Twice I have lost the 25$ buy in to one of the 6 10/25c NLHE on full tilt that I play when I am grinding. Other than these two hands I am doing well and I am only down 10$ despite losing 50 on these two.

So the way I have always played KK preflop is simple: If they check, bet. If they bet, raise. If they raise, go all in.

I just can't imagine not wanting to shove KK preflop even if your opponent shows strength. Especially at the lower stakes like I am playing where donkeys often shove with AJ offsuit.

Should I play KK more conservatively, or did I just have a bit of bad luck. Do you guys always shove KK preflop if possible?

I think you're playing it fine. Just had bad luck. I pretty much always shove KK preflop if the pot is big enough.

:-)

6 max KK is pretty much the nutz preflop except against very nitty players that never 3 bet so I will try to felt this pre almost always.

KK vs AA is very rare and to have twice in one day is just a cooler

Thanks for the replies. My general way of playing KK is to try to bet as much as possible preflop and to keep betting as much as possible barring an Ace on the board.

I usually also use my statistics to guage my opponent's holdings preflop as well. The other day a guy three-bet and went all in preflop. I easily folded my A Q offsuit because the guy had a preflop raise of something like 2% over 100+ hands. A guy behind me called with KK and it turns out the guy I thought was super tight only had AJo. Is this guy just terrible at reading or did he lose his mind from being super tight?

Another hand that I would appreciate to have analyzed:

I am about 2 before the button and it is folded to me in 10c/25c NLHE on FTP. I look at A 10 suited and raise it to 75c. The guy in the big blind reraises it to 1.50, and I make the call after seeing that he has a preflop raise % of 18. Flop comes 10 7 2 rainbow. I check He bets 4$ and I make the call pretty easily considering I flopped top top with no draws. Turn comes 5. I check again and he goes all in for about the size of the pot. i think that at best he flopped a set. But I remember all of the times people have continuation and kept on betting AK suited when they completely missed the flop, so I make the call. He turns over KK!. Tough call but the odds were there and I put him on AKs...probably not my best call but I think it's also a bit of a cold deck...and I honestly didn't think folding top top was an option at that point with no draws on the board. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by timmertown

Thanks for the replies. My general way of playing KK is to try to bet as much as possible preflop and to keep betting as much as possible barring an Ace on the board.

I usually also use my statistics to guage my opponent's holdings preflop as well. The other day a guy three-bet and went all in preflop. I easily folded my A Q offsuit because the guy had a preflop raise of something like 2% over 100+ hands. A guy behind me called with KK and it turns out the guy I thought was super tight only had AJo. Is this guy just terrible at reading or did he lose his mind from being super tight?

100 hands may not be that big of a sample. He could've had a cold deck for a while.

Another hand that I would appreciate to have analyzed:

I am about 2 before the button and it is folded to me in 10c/25c NLHE on FTP. I look at A 10 suited and raise it to 75c. The guy in the big blind reraises it to 1.50, and I make the call after seeing that he has a preflop raise % of 18. Flop comes 10 7 2 rainbow. I check He bets 4$ and I make the call pretty easily considering I flopped top top with no draws. Turn comes 5. I check again and he goes all in for about the size of the pot. i think that at best he flopped a set. But I remember all of the times people have continuation and kept on betting AK suited when they completely missed the flop, so I make the call. He turns over KK!. Tough call but the odds were there and I put him on AKs...probably not my best call but I think it's also a bit of a cold deck...and I honestly didn't think folding top top was an option at that point with no draws on the board. Thoughts?

Why does he have position if he's in the big blind?