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    Hi everyone, let me tell you about a hand I played at a home game. We were playing $1/$1 blinds I had about $35 in front of me when we started. There was this crazy Russian kid who was playing allright, but tried to bluff a lot. I was dealt A 6 off in the bb, he was in middle position and called preflop. I checked my option, flop comes 6 9 J rainbow. I check, he bets $1, SB folds, I call. Turn : K . I check, he checks. At this point I thought he had nothing and had an inkling he'd bet the rier no matter hat. River pops up a 7, no flushes possible. I check, he bets $10 (more than the pot) and I call believing he has nothing. He insta-mucked his cards. I was right, but my main question is: How do I tell if I was lucky in guessing he had nothing, or if it was my skill in reading him?

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    There was this crazy Russian kid who was playing allright
    was his name kgb?

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    ha ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyleb89 View Post
    Hi everyone, let me tell you about a hand I played at a home game. We were playing $1/$1 blinds I had about $35 in front of me when we started. There was this crazy Russian kid who was playing allright, but tried to bluff a lot. I was dealt A 6 off in the bb, he was in middle position and called preflop. I checked my option, flop comes 6 9 J rainbow. I check, he bets $1, SB folds, I call. Turn : K . I check, he checks. At this point I thought he had nothing and had an inkling he'd bet the rier no matter hat. River pops up a 7, no flushes possible. I check, he bets $10 (more than the pot) and I call believing he has nothing. He insta-mucked his cards. I was right, but my main question is: How do I tell if I was lucky in guessing he had nothing, or if it was my skill in reading him?

    He bet 10 dollars into a 5 dollar pot? I wouldnt call that with 6s, you were only in the pot for 2 dollars, why risk the ten?

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    Whenever you make a call based on a guess and get it right, you got lucky.

    Hand reading is very hard to do when you play out of position because you have very limited info to go on, what if he bets turn and bets river with nothing? do you call all the way down?

    Anyway. You make reads by observing your opponents. You can look for betting patterns, timing tells, body language, well all sorts really.

    I play nearly 100% online poker so the tells I focus on are online tells. for example when a fishyish player donks the flop after your pre flop raise, this is nearly always either a hand that can't take too much pressure, random draw or a bluff, so you can raise with impunity. This is only a general tell based on experience (millions of hands of experience) as opposed to a player specific tell.

    Another way to improve your 'skill' when reading opponents is to look at the showdowns (especially online). See what players are calling with and then think how the hand played out so you can adjust accordingly. Did they call down with bottom pair? Then value bet thiner on all three streets and bluff much less. Do they check/ fold every time they have nothing? Then really open up your bluffing range and make your C- bets smaller.

    In poker you only get little bits of info here and there so you need to make the most of every little bit that you can. Try and play in position more, A6 is a junk hand to play when you will be out of position post flop as you'll be playing 'guess poker' which will be a losing play, especially when you are getting started. You stack off when an ace hits nearly always and you'll often find it's the man with the better ace that's planning on how to spend your money.

    Good luck


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    Why does my reply not show upin the main forum?

    Is that to do with the technical hitch?

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