what do you think about offending bad players on chat when they make bad calls (and get their cards), or even when they just play bad?
for sometime I though it was good, including showing down bluffs, so they would be more likely to call you when you have a good hand
the problem is that it seems that most of the time they tend to slowdown on you postflop (they may even be maniacs preflop, but they will only let the pot go high when they have a good hand), so it doesn't seem very profitable for me
i'm guessing the best strategy is just to shutup
what do you think?
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05-11-2009 #1Chaser
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psychological: offending players?
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05-11-2009 #2Chaser
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I never tell a player that he is playing bad... Why would you? You don't want him to improve do you?
If they suck out on a bad call, I just say nice hand.
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05-11-2009 #3Chaser
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05-11-2009 #4
I really hate it when people slag off the bad players at my table, or holywood against them or anything to make them feel bad really.
See here you have a massive donater to the game who is pretty much your winrate all on his own and someone wants to embaris him into not playing? How is that ever a good idea?
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05-12-2009 #5
True advice above, I don't think you should ever offend a player because you may scare the fish away. Make players feel comfortable around you. As far as them only playing pots when they have something, and when you do they fold. I face that a lot, and depending on the players I'll do different things. I play in a game sometimes where if you raise and their holding light, they will usually fold. Great I got some blinds or whatever. If I want action with these guys, what I usually do is not to raise big hands in postion, and see what happens. If I got aces in a tight game, why raise? Let the inferior hands in and see what happens. If the flop looks scary just fold your AA or KK whatever. Of course you will be outdrawn sometimes, but if you have good hand and player reading skills, you may get a few more bites that way. In my opinion, players today have a great understanding of pre-flop strategy. They know which cards are best. Post-flop is where they will make most of there mistakes and so on. Playing big hands slow like I'm talking about is like taking a lead in a race way out front, yes they can catch up, but more times than none they will not. You just have to understand what you are trying to do, know when its working and when to pull the plug and run. Hope this helps some. Poker is a game of change and flow, just go with it.
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05-12-2009 #6
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05-12-2009 #7
I think your average calling station/fish can be shamed into improvement pretty easily, just deciding to call a bit less makes them a better player.
Also making it uncomfortable for them often just prompts them to leave the table rather than stay and play worse.
I think most players are aware of what a lot of the bad play that they indulge in is but continue to do it through force of habit. I've been in many situations where I've abused some donk for making some ridiculous suckout only for them to rise to the challenge afterwards and take even more money out of me. The last thing you want to do is motivate other players to break with their losing routine and try harder against you.
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05-12-2009 #8
Don't tap the glass? Please explain....never heard he term
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